Discussion in 'Music and Recordings' started by Jeb, Nov 18, 2015.
My favorite track off the BANGIN' "Below the Heavens" album.
Who has the Top 5 deliveries(rap style, lyricism aside) 2005 and before?
Black Thought would be in there for me.
I'm not super familiar with rap, but I've always enjoyed Kool Keith's earlier works.
since 2005, my preferred are:
Kendrick is dope
I guess my top 5's pre 2005 would look like this:
1. Pharoah Monch
3. Kool G Rap
4. Black Thought
So many more dope deliveries though. I wanna put Ghost face in there and Ruck from Heltah Skeltah
1. Pharoah Monch
4. Eminem (not really a fan but he can spit)
5. Royce da 5'9
I guess that is by ranking and not preference. Busta rhymes would have the best delivery but he started getting dope after 2005 or right around there. He sucks as a lyricist though.
3. Pharoah Monch
4. Mos Def
5. Black Thought.
I'm mildly surprised there's no mention of Rakim when discussing delivery. He was the first of his kind and influenced many later MCs mentioned here like Black Thought, Nas, and Ghostface.
Rakim definitely. Those were just preferences of mine and my Top five had deliveries I'd rather listen to.
I like Rakim a lot. Of the MC's you named I can hear his delivery most in Nas but not so much black thought or Ghose face.
Fair enough. I also struggle to separate delivery from lyrics. For MCs like Rakim and Nas, I feel it's their lyrics that enable the delivery. Multi-syllable rhymes. Multiple rhymes within a single line or verse. Continuing rhymes through multiple lines (i.e enjambment), etc.
Funny I was thinking the same thing kind of.
However, the thing for me is that you can have dope rhyme patterns but the content be really simple. I think lyricism for sure is part of the delivery with rhyme patterns, but there is a point where you can have the illest rhyme patterns and just say a bunch of garbage like Busta Rhymes who lacks enough deep, catchy, and creative content to be considered a top lyricist to me. Almost the same for my personal favorite, Buckshot; he is a very simple rapper but he rides the beat perfectly and has a dope way of saying what he says.
To me Elzhi does both. He looks up to Nas the most which looked up to Rakim the most.
Elzhi "I slaughter clowns in my part of town/ and an artist sound around watered down he just oughta drown"
I can do nothing but respect Rakim since he is who inspired my top 2 fav rappers
I listen to all kinds of music but as I've gotten older I don't enjoy music with profanity which pretty much precludes all secular rap unfortunately. Fortunately for me there has been an explosion of really good Christian rappers in the last few years. There is some really creative stuff being put out there. Some of the newer guys I've been digging include Skrip, Aha Gazelle, Corey Wise, Social Club Misfits. Trip Lee is one of the more well-known guys that I dig. Also, Propaganda.
Older Skrip song but catchy:
LL Cool J
No mention of Run DMC because well like Kurtis Blow they emphasised simple rhyme schemes to keep their music accessible. If simple has a place than I prefer LL Cool J for songs like "Radio." When LL wanted to sound big, he sounded big and that is severely underestimated by many MCs these days in my opinion.
Why is it that a guy like Macklemore has to remind the Rap community how important it is to sound big? No need to curse, use the B-word and emphasise bling-bling and do that fake B-Boy stance. Attitude and having some power/confidence behind that voice matter. For fuck's sake...
P.S.Sorry, for the mini rant.
Funny you post Propaganda in his previous album...I am rapping in that song with propaganda at 2.37
I also sung a verse for him on another song as well.
Also that is pretty much where I am at with rap in general but since I still write time to time I like to check up on my roots and where I started.
Awesome, @gbeast. I see you're from Portland so I assume you know Braille, then. I'm friends with his wife from way back (we spent a year in Asia on the same small team). I was just up there and saw them a few weeks ago.
Yeah, I know them both. I used to live in pdx but I need to update my location. I used to be a humble beast artist. That is part of the reason I moved to PDX. Bryan was the one that brought me on.
this is so powerful. damn
He may be a goofy-looking guy, but he can tell a story..
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