I fixed the Ether C!!!

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  1. purr1n

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    Shelved the lower treble down a few db (without affecting the last octave too much.) Sooooo much better!
    Ether C fixed.png
     
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    FR is way better compared to the previously posted one. You are going to tell us what you did, right?
     
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    yah, he measured a different headphone. ;)
     
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    Two bucks says he did it with toilet paper again...
     
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    I should have guessed. Hanes 2 ply
     
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    This is what I've been doing in Amarra.

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    Two-ply TP. The Mrspeakers supplied white fiber pad did the job, but just killed everything - made everything sound stuffy and dead like rotting corpses. The black pads did jack shit in the lower treble region which the region thatI wanted to address. TP is the most effective material for the lower treble without turning everything (air, liveliness, etc.) into poop. The legend of studio guys putting TP in front of the tweeters of the Yamaha NS10 monitors is true! I'd use digital PEQ, but I have a record player as a source.

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    Well done Koth, you're finally getting the hang of things !
     
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    LOL. Really.

    Did you leave any stock pads in place?

    Is this a belated April Fools joke?
     
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    Haha this is funny and ridiculous - but if such a simple mod would fix the treble peak I am intrigued.

    Would a similar mod improve the open Ether? I still can't tell if people prefer the open or closed Ether at SBAF.
     
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    The open Ether doesn't need the mod as much. It's frequency response is good. I've figured out that many people who have issues with the Ether Open sounding too lean wear glasses. I did some tests and realized Ether is super sensitive to seal. Just a small gap and entire bass rolls off super early.

    I might prefer the closed Ether with the TP mods to the open Ether. Bass quality seems better with the closed Ether C.

    Been going through some records with Ether C TP on my reference system. I would like a little bit more bass and warmth, but really, this is very enjoyable now, especially for a closed headphone.
     
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    Do people actually do this? I tip my glasses up so the earpieces are resting on the pads of my headphones, or take them off entirely.
     
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    I get too much distortion if I do that, plus I don't like the way they feel on my nose tipped up. I just take them off for serious listening sessions, depending on the phone.
     
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    If I don't wear glasses, I can't see. And I listen to music while working, so both are important to me. And turning up my glasses makes them glarey
     
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    I get a bunch of reflections if I do that, plus yeah it doesn't feel particularly nice... I'm only myopic (so far) so if I'm not looking at the TV/PC I'll often take them off, don't really need them to use a phone/tablet.

    That frames I use at home aren't particularly troublesome tho, got in the habit of using a looser and thinner frame at home... I'd often fall asleep with my glasses on and if they slipped off and I rolled over them they'd get bent out of shape (no amount of bending would restore the fit & prevent them from feeling off afterwards).

    With the Flexons (home frames) or whatever they're called it's not a big deal, they snap right back (like memory wire). It's a nice break from the more secure pinch of the Oakley frames I tend to wear out throughout the day anyway.

    They're so thin and flexible pads can literally bend the legs in a little. Some still lose seal but most don't, few cause any pinch or pressure, vast difference vs my other frames.

    #firstworld4eyeaudiophileproblems?
     
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    Scratch that. Behold the greatest HD800 mod ever created by man. @sorrodje eat your heart out :p

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    If a headphone is not glasses friendly it's design is flawed imo, look at Sennheiser(among others) they have been pulling it off for years.
     
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    Planar headphones do usually need a strong seal and there's nothing you can do about that. Dynamics not so much.
    When I listen to a planar headphone at a meet, the first thing I do is put down my glasses and see how it affects the frequency response. More often than not the change isn't huge but glasses will always give you a worse seal.
     
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    Fair enough. But can't that be compensated for with bigger and more plush pads? The Focus pads on my HE-500 seem alright to me. My glasses have fairly thin earpieces though. I guess a closed planar is harder to tune right.
     
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    No, not always. Unless you're talking pads that are so plush and soft that they'll wrap around your frame on the backside and seal that way, you're always going to get at least a bit of leakage with glasses. Some planars actually get bassier when you leak the pads (LCD-2, HE-500, HE-X, etc.), and some lose bass (Ethers, T50RPs, etc.). Even the HD650 will roll off a bit more in the bass with pad leakage.

    These mods do look like an improvement, but the bass and mids still look too wonky for me. But I still would be curious to try.

    IME TP does help with treble problems BUT I always find it seems to f**k with bass and dynamics too much for my tastes. If I have to use TP, I usually cut out a hole in the middle so some stuff gets through easily (same for most damping foams).

    Again, I would really like to try an entirely new front damping scheme on the Ethers. I really think that foam he uses around the drivers screws up the upper-mid and lower-treble tone. Replacing it on the Alpha Dog with some Creatology foam + drawer liner actually made for a smoother, more integrated response.
     

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