ifi-audio pro iCAN - any thoughts?

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  1. iFi audio

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    We ask reviewers to fix ONLY technical wrongs in their work if there are any. And even if so, this happens when we see the result published. Other than that, we never insist or pressure in any way. That's not our style.
     
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    @Torq Did you ever hear HD 800 S bass distortion using X-BASS? Jude has measured a couple of HD 800S's and he said that wasn't the case. I'm about to get one but not sure about this 2nd order harmonic distortion thing.
     
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    Hey Guys,

    Today we are talking about an absolute Swiss army knife of an amplifier, the iFi Audio Pro iCAN. Not only does this amp sound great, it can do pretty much….everything!

    iFi Audio is a British company that was founded in 2012. It is a subsidiary of AMR Audio, which has a long history of making stereo equipment. iFi has always struck me as a company that focuses more on headphone and personal audio, but that does seem to be changing lately, and they are branching out into other areas (see the iFi “Aurora” all in one for an example of this.) Their products are innovative, and seem to prioritise functionality as well as sonic performance.

    The “Pro” line up launched with Pro iCAN that we are talking about today, but has since seen the introduction of the iESL (for electrostatic headphones) and the Pro iDSD DAC (which I will be talking about in a new review in a few days, another great bit of gear.)

    The Pro iCAN, which I will just refer to as the iCAN from here on out, is a small desktop sized amplifier. It features, not one, but two true tube modes, as well as a fully solid state mode. Talk about flexibility! You can switch between these modes on the fly with a flip of the switch, and it takes about 5 seconds for each mode to engage. The iCAN also features the best implementation I have heard of iFi’s “XBass” feature, as well as their take on crossfeed, the “3D” feature. I didn’t use the “3D” feature too often, but it does work well on some tracks, and the “XBass” feature is a tasteful boost at three different levels. I think it really depends on the headphones you are using when it comes to determining which of these levels and features you will want to use, and of course, your personal preference will play a role as well.

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    The iCAN is a bit of a mini powerhouse, it doesn’t take up much space, but it puts out 14,000mw at peak output levels, and with its 3 gain settings, can run everything from sensitive IEMs, to the Hifiman Susvara and HE6. Not many amps can boast such flexibility. Now, if you try to listen at enthusiastic levels, with both the “XBass” and “3D” features on with the Susvara or HE6, the amp will likely go into protection mode as it is starting to struggle, but apart from that it will have no troubles driving them.

    I think the iCAN has a similar sound signature across its three output modes, SS, Tube, and Tube +. The two tube modes are noticeably different from the SS mode, but they seem to maintain a similar sound signature and are not warm and gooey as some people expect tubes to be. The two tube modes seem to round off the edges of notes and make things a bit easier to listen to, but it will really depend on your headphones and preferences as to which mode you will prefer. I ended up using Tube mode with my Abyss, but SS mode with the Susvara. With something like the Focal Utopia, I could see Tube mode being used, and with the ZMF Eikon, maybe SS mode. The flexibility the iCAN offers, again, is tremendous.

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    I would describe the Pro iCAN as a fairly neutral sounding amp, perhaps leaning to colder and clinical at times, but not in a bad way, its just not a warm, fuzzy, and thick sounding amp.

    The iCANs technical performance was quite impressive, from dynamic swings to detail rendering. It perhaps doesn’t make the Susvara and hard to drive headphones slam as hard as a speaker amp, but it has no troubles powering them, and does more than an acceptable job at bringing out the positive qualities of said headphones.

    I tried comparing the iCAN to my iDSD Black Label, which is also made by iFi. The Micro iDSD BL is a fantastic transportable all in one unit, I really love it. However, perhaps it is not fair to compare it to a standalone desktop amp, but as both units are made by iFi I gave it a shot. As an amp only, the Pro iCAN, apart from being what seemed like infinitely more powerful, was more detailed and neutral sounding. The Micro iDSD seemed to have a tiny bit bloom that the Pro iCAN did not, as well as less detail. I still hold the Micro iDSD BL in very high regard as a transportable all in one, but its amp section was indeed beaten quite handily by its big brother. No surprises there I suppose.

    iFi Audio has come up true Swiss army knife of an amp with the Pro iCAN, and it really doesn’t do anything wrong! It can power sensitive IEMs without hiss, it can power most of the hardest to drive headphones on the market, it has bass enhancement and crossed implementations, and is both a SS *and* tube amp. I think it sounds fantastic, especially for the sale prices I have seen it available at on occasion (about $1299USD, and about $1000USD used.) I have even seen one unit sell for $850USD! At these prices, this amp is not only an excellent recommendation, but is a very solid value compared to some of the other options on the market.

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    The iFi Pro iCAN gets a very thorough recommendation from me, especially if you are looking for “one amp to rule them all.” I could see this amp being a reviewers dream come true, as it is so truly flexible. Great job and congratulations to the team at iFi for creating such a stand out product. I really enjoyed my time with the Pro iCAN, and to this day, consider purchasing one on occasion, even though I don’t truly need it!

    Thanks for taking the time to read this review.
     
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    what do you think is a good source for this amp, im currently still using my chord mojos
     
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    How do you like the pairing with Chord Mojo? Impossible for anyone to give you a personal recommendation without knowing what you like, what your preferences are, what headphones, etc.

    Is there anything wrong with the sound of the existing combination? Is there anything you would like to be better?
     
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    I love this amp. I bought it used a few months ago. At first it wasn't a huge revelation. When it came in I was already using a Little Dot MKIII, a Violectric V220 and a Monoprice Liquid Platinum.

    I owned an iFi MICRO Icann SE a few years ago and was quite impressed with the bass boost and 3D functions on it. I bought it for my first foray into Sennheiser, the HD6XX's. When I sold them on, I sold the AMP.

    A few years later I read about this one, but the price was overwhelming to me. Recently I found a used one that was selling for half of the full price (retail, plus taxes). I did some reading and decided to jump in for two reasons:
    1) I am a headphone hoarder and I thought it could work with many different types of headphones.
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    2) I thought that maybe I could cut down on my amp collection.

    Headphone wise, I find it Amazing with much of my collection. It Drives the HE6se V2's wonderfully with lots of bass boost and 3D added. I use tube mode with mid-gain and can't go past 10:00. It also drives the T60 Argons beautifully. They really love the bass boost as they seemed a bit bass shy, to my ears.

    On the flip side I enjoy this amp with my Grado GH2's and LSA HP-2's with a little bass boost added. Low gain and you can't go much past 9:30.

    I sold the Little Dot MKIII as it just wasn't special enough. I am now wondering about the LP. In the coming weeks I will run my Elex's and HD660's through the iCAN more to see if they are a good fit. In the past I have preferred those on the LP.

    I am a quiet listener, but I love the almost unlimited power, at least in my case. I also love the flexibility. I think perhaps moving forward I can get the best out if all my headphones using different tweaks this amp offers.

    The only thing it can't replace, IMO, is the sweet, warm sound of the Violectric. I find it pretty neutral. I am mostly into fun headphones and warmish amps, but this units abilities are winning me over.
     
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    Yeah, that's one of key points why folks who own multiple cans consider Pro iCAN. Thanks!
     
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    Thanks a lot for this, Pro iCAN was designed to be as flexible as we could make it and we think that this is what makes it so special.
     
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    A pretty old thread, but I've got an iCan pro for the second time and the second go around with a bit more knowledge I've started to appreciate this unit a bit more. I don't think I can add anything to the previous reviews and any deviations would be semantics. We're lucky to have such good reviewers here.

    Two major changes this go around which really changed my opinion on this amp:

    1. A linear power supply - A 15v power supply really elevated this unit into a higher category. Having heard the difference and looking over the internals, I would suspect most of the improvements in the "Signature" unit come from a better power supply. Much more detail and nuance on decays,

    2. Swapping the tube - I was hesitant my first ownership go around to swap tubes. Second time around I'm more comfortable fidgeting with stuff. I quickly saw why ifi does not encourage tube rolling. Pull off only the screws on the back plate and wiggle the PCB out. It's a bit stiff. The tubes are socketed into a pcb which is held onto the main board by solder alone. I struggled a lot with getting the tubes out. The sockets were so tight, I thought the tubes might have been glued into place. So take wiggling out a very stuck tube from a connection held by solder and people are going to break it. Proceed with caution.

    My first go around with this amp, I didn't really "get" the tube features. The tube settings didn't really add any warmth to the sound and so I basically never used it. Second go around I tried some tubes and was much more impressed.

    1. GE 5670W (stock) - Strong technicalities, but no warmth and overall felt bright. I don't think burn in really changed the characteristics here
    2. WE 2C51 - The recommended tube. As much as I like to be a contrarian, my tube rolling stopped here. It's not the most technical of the bunch, but it strikes a great balance of technicalities and warmth. This tube compared to the 6N3P has a bit looser midbass and midrange which gives it a very easy listening experience.
    3. Bendix 2c51 - Basically the GE 5670W on a higher level of technicalities. Very bright but super detailed. Not the sound I was looking for.
    4. Soviet 6N3P - If I didn't have the Western Electric, I'd probably go with this tube. They're dirt cheap and the only other tube I found that sounded warmer than SS. Technicalities aren't as strong as the WE 2C51 and the midrange is a bit dryer. The bass is overall a lot looser and it gets more treble extension up top than the 2C51. So it's warmer in the "loose bass" category where the WE is warmer in the midrange category. I'd be pretty happy leaving these tubes in.

    Also to note, I had the amp reject a lot of tubes. There's some sort of protection circuit that would kick on and not use them. So if you can buy a bundle for a few bucks more I'd recommend.



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    With the newer "Signature" units being pumped out the original iCan is slowly creeping down in price and it's getting into bargain territory. Plan on the upgrades above and I think it's one of the best SS amps you can buy at the $1k price point.
     
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    I believe the signature comes with the iPower elite by default doesn't it?

    Interesting to hear that note about the tubes, because I really did not like the stock tube and tube+ modes.
     
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    The Signature does come with their fancy dancy iPower. I suspect a lot of the improvements in the signature come from that power supply. I think at the $2k price point the "signature" version would run into the issues as the original release. Lots of neat features, but the barebones performance at $2k is a bit off.

    Definitely on the tubes! I was pleasantly surprised when the Russian tubes clicked on and warmed everything up.
     
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    I agree. I wrote up a review for the Pro iCan somewhere ages ago, and yeah my overall impression was that I liked the amp, but didn't like the features because most of them made it sound "worse" to me so I didn't appreciated the value of it.

    I personally would feel like the upcharge for the Signature is even harder to swallow. But... I do like matching stacked gear, and the iPower Elite does give enough power to let you daisychain the power from iCan to iDSD which twigs another happy part of my brain, and then you stack an iESL on top using power from the iCan with the special cable and it's a nice neurotic happy package with a single power supply.
     
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