I'm Never Giving Up On SBAF

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  1. rhythmdevils

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    I’m never giving up on SBAF. I love the beauty of music played through a good pair of headphones, and I’m completely obsessed with making the best orthos I possibly can. This is the only community I can imagine sharing that passion with. There is an intelligence to the people here (the vast majority of the people here ;) ) and a passion that runs deep.

    Let’s all remember how unique this forum is for providing us with a community for such a strange, unique passion and not let the few assholes get in our way.

    Thanks everyone for making this place what it is and I want to encourage you all to do more to contribute to making SBAF better. Your presence and your spirit is needed here, your voice is needed here. Speak up, ask questions, post your thoughts, write reviews, try new things and share them with us. Let’s all have fun together.

    I thought we could all use a little lovin' after recent events and a reminder of what we're here for.

    Peace! And hugs for everyone. Whitney

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    Given the shit you took in the other thread (in my opinion), I'm really happy you're able to put it behind you and see the bigger picture. Looking forward to your continued contributions.
     
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    The whole loaner participation debate reminded me of how being in charge of a loaner program is probably similar to when someone takes a hobby they love, turns it into a business and then begins to resent it because the fun gets overshadowed by the daily pains. I respect what you guys do and it was what made me finally get off my ass and start the Speaker Graveyard thread I had been meaning to do for 6 months. Also I've been negligent in not throwing SBAF a few bucks. I can't remember the last time I did it. All you admins do great work and it IS greatly appreciated.
     
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    Thanks Whitney, so glad you are here, your contributions have been and continue to be amazing. I have personnel benefited so much in building my rig by getting to try different gear in my home.
    best,
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    please do not start / continue a rehash of that thread here or my wrath may unleash havoc next….
     
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    I just moved the posts to the bitching thread where they belong.

    Carry on...
     
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    If you cannot find a doctor, ask for Doctor Who.



    P.S. Yes, the KLF is awesome.
     
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    It is quite enough just to put the lime in the coconut, mix it all together, and drink it all up. If anybody still needs the doc, call him in the morning.

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    Just now saw the post that led to soups OG ban (for a few hours or a day apparently), his lengthy reply late last night and its subsequent splinting off into a closed black hole thread and his re-banning.

    To break out the old chestnut: What the hell are we head-fi now??!!

    If this is "healing" I don't want to see opposite. You better ban me for a few days because I have a few 'f**k you's' for @rhythmdevils and any other mod/personality that is backing this.

    Gearmasters, I'm on record as agreeing with the program as it is and your rebuttal of the majority of the criticism and the anxiety behind it, but you (i.e. we - SBAF) have a perception problem in a medium (forums/comment boxes) that focuses/magnify perception problems, in a hobby that was practically built on manufactures/audio "media" manipulating perception and "reviews". Why the hell can we not talk about these facts?
     
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    We did talk about it. Maybe you need to read the original thread again. @SoupRKnowva thinks he knows the truth and we are covering something up. And other members just held onto the misunderstanding as well as if there was a cover up. The thread was me and Dan spending literally hours writing detailed posts that were as clear as we possibly could write them trying to clarify how the program works and members just repeating the same misconception. That is not useful. No, @SoupRKnowva does not know some "secret covered up truth" about the loaner program. I wasn't clear enough at first and he and Elnerik misunderstood. Which is fine. But its not cool to continue to spread this misconception as a conspiracy theory after it has been clarified literally 15 times by the 2 staff members who implement the policy. These are not "facts" @crenca. There are 2 people who implement the policy of the loaner program and they explained how they run it. There are no quotes around these facts. I explain in great detail how the loaner program works regarding this issue in this post. These are facts. No quotes.

    There is no cover up.
    This is not Qanon.
    We tried to have a discussion about it and it went nowhere. You can thank the dumbasses in the original thread for that.

    Once again, I understand being paranoid of a "no negative reviews policy" because of head-fi and past trauma associated with what head-fi did to this community. But you have to listen when staff spend the time to explain how SBAF works.

    If you don't trust that staff are being honest, maybe you don't belong on SBAF,
     
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    I’ve got a few f**k-yous for @crenca and others since I have to take time during vacation to reply to the continued bitching about a topic that started off as confusing, faced stiff replies about censorship and “do it this way even though i don’t contribute shit to the process”, was clarified multiple times by the Gearmasters indicating a process with some vendor diplomacy and no censored posts, yet the bitching returns because it’s not perfect for personal sensibilities nor reality if the loaner program wishes to expand.

    We CAN talk about facts, but repeated posts revert to the sky is falling dread about the initial censorship worries and fall out, *that have been refuted multiple times by the gearmasters*.
     
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    I would also like to say f**k you to @crenca while we are at it

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    The two sides are talking past each other. The mods keep saying this is about the content of gear reviews. Those disagreeing with the mods don’t like the idea of “whitewashed” gear reviews (mostly)—but their actual criticism is of the intolerance demonstrated by the mods. Banning people for expressing an opinion on how the site is run, even if they’re totally wrong in your view, is basically an abuse of power.
     
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    Um. The bans happened 24 hours after the original discussion happened @skem. None of your post is accurate. Their criticism was not of banning members because that happened after the thread unfolded. They were banned for repeating the same misconceptions and ignoring staff explaining the reality of how the program works.

    No one was banned for respectfully criticizing SBAF policy. No one has in fact respectfully criticized how the program actually works.

    No one will ever be banned for having suggestions for SBAF. Or constructive criticism. But you know, staff on this forum work really hard, and its' not appreciated when people who do not contribute anything to this site just bitch. Especially when it is about things that do not exist.

    Instead of bitching ignorantly, how about you do something yourself that changes how SBAF actually exists.
     
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    I'm spending my whole day dealing with this. do you understand that @skem ? Your post is a quick, ignorant hot take that has no bearing on realty. While you do other things. Things that I would like to be doing instead of dealign with all of this bullshit.
     
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