I'm Never Giving Up On SBAF

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  1. k4rstar

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    Whitney: "I want to get you guys access to all sorts of awesome toys at virtually no cost to you and extreme cost to my own life force for the greater good of the community and for no compensation to myself. Just abide by these guidelines"

    Possible responses from community:
    "That's great Whitney, what can I do to help you with this arduous task of manufacturer relationship management so the community can continue to enjoy this great boon?"
    or
    "That's great Whitney, but I am not sure I agree with the guidelines, maybe I am not understanding your intentions, can you clarify?"

    The actual response from vocal minority of network engineers:
    "Whitney, you want us to be shills? We know better than you what this site and community is all about, and your suggestion of acting like a perfectly normal group of human beings is unacceptable. Instead, we are going to blow your reasonable requests way out of proportion and then when you attempt to clarify, claim you are actually back-pedalling and compromising the integrity of a community you helped to found."

    damn.

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    Too much autism in audio as of late.
     
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    No one should martyr themselves for the sake of a few toys.

    People need to get back to a realistic perspective, on all sides. SBAF is not going to be "saved" by the loaner program. Interest has waned and senior members have moved on regardless. Blame politicis, COVID, zoomer meme culture, whatever. Things will get better or they won't. But burning out over it is not going to help anyone.
     
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    That this histrionic melodrama continues to be the hottest topic here is a symptom of a much bigger problem. TBH, I'm embarrassed that I still read this forum. Think I need to break that habit because I'm starting to feel gross just being here.
     
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    Drama happens and humans are attracted to it. It’s best work through and learn to move on. No one’s forcing anyone to be here. If it’s too gross, I have a tutorial:

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    The truth has become obvious: no one or very few here care about new toys, or are at least are very selective with what they care about. I know RD tried...

    It's what I said before. New toys better discussed on YT or TikTok. Better less experienced, less jaded, and more appreciative audience.

    P.S. Anything and everything done on behalf of SBAF is a lose-lose proposition. Running SBAF after I truly realized this became much easier. Knowing and understanding is not enough. Losing must be integrated into one's core.
     
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    The only reason I continue?

    The Ghosts of Audio Past, Audio Present, and Audio Future visited me. It was pretty bleak. All we had was high SINAD gear and class D amps with 165db of feedback. ESS was the only game in town. Sennheiser went out of business because everyone forgot about the HD6xx and went to low-quality orthos. Everyone here owned mostly $4000 Topping gear, connected via USB. And @SoupRKnowva had to settle for a Teac UD701 DAC. Craig Uthus put Nelson Pass into a bear hug and jumped off the Golden Gate bridge.
     
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    This appears right. It's not just pricing either, as the lower cost Schiit stuff seems to attract plenty of attention. It seems a ZMF headphone would be on tour for eternity, whereas other manufacturers have trouble attract interest.

    I'm wondering if COVID accelerated the long slow decline of audio by putting people in front of screens for an even larger chunk of their day
     
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    Let's face it. While we all have different preferences, within our respective camps, we are still darn picky about gear.

    There's an inertia to receiving new gear. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just what it is. Not any different from how south Texas is hot and humid in the summer.
     
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    Experienced veterans eventually reach their end game, and consider jumping off the treadmill. This inevitably changes the community.... at one extreme, you end up with a group of buds just shooting shit (Head Case) or you continue to drink the latest FOTM like delicious nectar (Head Fi).

    I'd like to think SBAF's raison d'etre is to sit somewhere between these two extremes. Until a few days ago, it seemed to be doing an absolutely stellar job of this. I dunno WTF shifted, but it sure did seem to shift.....
     
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    The environment here has always been pretty good, it wasn't toxic, at least on the surface. I am vaguely aware that drama has always happened but I feel like it's been behind the scenes, not the focus. When it's repeatedly spilling over from behind the curtain though and the club feels like it has become about the club drama...things are unwell.

    I will take @shotgunshane's tutorial. I'm going to logout all my devices tonight and abstain from checking this forum for 30 days.

    That's soul crushing to hear you say. I am not on board with losing. Charity, perhaps, but not losing. I am sad to think others would be subjected to that if it is reality.
     
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    The way not to lose is to not care about what others think, not expecting any appreciation or gratitude, not trying to be right, not expecting anyone to agree, not trying to make anyone happy, but ruthlessly continuing forward with the mission: creating quality content that the readers will gobble up. The results speak for themselves. I know that when go on a tear, readership goes up. It takes about 2-3 weeks. I do have analytics ya know.

    Notice I am NOT addressing any of the drama, actually intentionally ignoring it, and turning back the clock as if nothing has happened. I now ruthlessly continue on with the Mini S review...
     
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    I was going to make a post here earlier, but then I decided to go out to have a nice lunch with friends before going back to work instead....

    For real though, I'm really hoping this is just an inevitable rough patch / cyclical change with SBAF as many other things in nature have. I really don't want to see the ghosts of audio past, present, and future all come true.
     
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    I see HF more as a central city square, e.g. 1000 random reviews of 1000 random people.
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    Yeah but then the Ghost Ship of Changstar past stormed the walls, and brought a perfect wave II(only the finest upgraded from the v1), a God Amp TM, and a pair of HD650, over the gangplanks...right?
     
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