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Conférence de Presse Vol 1 & 2 .... Eddy Louiss played Hammond Organ.
I really can't get into Jazz. I have no idea where to start nor I can't find anything remotely interesting to listen. :/
What are you listening to usually ?
I personaly listen to a huge amount of "Jazz" or whatever you can call this music. Jazz covers a LOT of different music. The common pointis generally heavy use of improvisation and maybe some common reference to classic Jazz harmonic and melodic structure but not always. Many musicians mixed a lot of different influences to create some unique "Jazz" Music.
Something that's definitely Jazz music , but that does not sound at all like what most people call "Jazz"
Michel Portal played some Free Jazz in the 70s but plays Mozart or Boulez as well.
There's your essentials for what I would recommend getting into jazz. You can start with the classic/swing era stuff instead but I think it's easier to get into the genre with 50s,60s,70s era stuff when you're coming from a rock/pop disposition.
Sorry but I don't agree.
For someone who comes from Hip hop or 70s Rock or Metal, I wouldn't advice to listen to Kind of Blue ( which is on of my fav album) . that's kinda old and very "Jazz". As a huge Coltrane fan , I listened to 'A love Supreme" maybe more than anything else but that music could discourage easily to listen to some other Jazz music.
Even if those album are State of the art Jazz albums they're not the best enty point for everyone. IMHO.
Well, I know many people consider Kind of Blue to be not only a great jazz album, but also the starting point for anyone entering the genre. As I recall it was my first jazz album coming from gangsta rap and alternative radio. But I'm sure wnmnkh would be happy to try some other starter records if one were to suggest them
My point is not to say this is NOT a good album to start with . Just suggest it's not necessarily the good one. Depends on where a listener comes from. So I disagree with "the starting point for anyone entering the genre." statement
For example. Take a fan of Pink Floyd.. I'd suggest him to give a listen to that music :
Another exemple ( shitty sound sorry :/ )
I don't think a "jazzy" arrangement of a rock classic really gets you to the heart of what jazz is about, but maybe some entry listeners who don't want to leave their comfort zone need that. Don't want to get into the "that's not jazz" argument.....
Great list. I would just say for Coltrane that an easier introductory album might be Giant Steps (notwithstanding its notorious reputation as a difficult album it is really quite catchy with a lot of hooks and memorable melodies); to. Me it is almost one of his more poppy albums. Or Blue Train or My Favorite Things (or Coltrane's Sound from same sessions as MFT).
I think Kind of Blue is probably a very good number starting point. It is possible that one would not like it but like other periods of or styles of jazz but it is certainly a good litmus test for whether you are likely to enjoy a very large swath of classic jazz. And it is a very accessible album. One of my first jazz albums way back when if not the very first. I would also recommend Sonny Rollins' Saxophone Collosus as a stone cold classic that is very accessible with lots of memorable melodies.
I too like Michel. Two favs.
Thank you for the suggestions.
I am deeply rooted in Baroque-era. Mostly Vivaldi, many Mozart and Bach and some Beethoven.
For some reasons I can't get used to Romantic and after as well (with exception of Glass). My music taste is quite... biased I think.
I also do listen to some Rock (i.e Bon Jovi) and pop as well.
i'm thinking you might find these a good introduction (with some duplication of others recommendations):
don't really know about the track selection (i own WAY too much 'Bird.)
but it has "Star Eyes" so you can't go wrong regardless of which take it is.
MrsForBin sez the Randy Weston might be a little much, however "Sepia Panorama" swings so hard it makes
your heart happy!
edit: originally mentioned "Caravan" on the Randy Weston, it should be "Sepia Panorama" which has this mongrel, canine bass line that swings like crazy! (may even be a good test track for acoustic bass.) also Mr.Weston is playing an Imperial Grand, yummy!
I learned to love jazz from the classics.
I would recommend - Miles Davis - Round about Midnight or Bitches Brew , John Coletrane - A Love Supreme, Thelonious Monk - Straight No Chaser, and Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady as my favorites.
After years of enjoying the above I have an appreciation for the newer guys as well. Check out BADBADNOTGOOD, Flying Lotus, Brad Mehldau, and Christian Scott.
We need to get LFF in this thread so he can recommend us an essential list of swing era classics (20's and 30's)
There's also a lot of good modern jazz artists to like. I second BBNG. Some of my favorites:
(Portico Quartet - Isla)
New Orleans Jazz is the most contrapuntal prewar Jazz. Try Jelly Roll Morton.
A great jazz album I'd recommend to anyone getting into the genre.
If that person was a fan of metal and noise, maybe
One of my current favorites is Edmond Hall (clarinet). I think this would be a good entry point for someone new to jazz. Or not. Anyway fantastic sounding to my ears.
Yea, your list is probably ideal when someone who just discovered Jazz want some reference recordings to go further in Classic Jazz. When i was younger, I was a kind of Taliban for the "that's not jazz".. I'm now 44 and as long as the music is mostly based on improvisation and keep some links with Mainstream Jazz, that's fine for me .
@wnmnkh : I'm with Claritas here. Early Jazz is probably a good entry point. Maybe Duke Ellington early releases from the 30s as well. what did you listen until now that you disliked ?
Really love the Joshua Redman Elastic band's Momementum as well . My fav Redman's album to date is :
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