Discussion in 'Headphone Measurements' started by purr1n, Jul 13, 2016.
would there be any type of tutorial to do this correctly and without damage?
I think there is some pics in the Thx00 thread on HF. Supposedly pretty easy.
Thank you for your measurements Marvey! I've been in head-fi purgatory the last week or so trying to read up on the differences between the TH-X00 variants. In other words, I've read hundreds of posts consisting mostly of self-aggrandizement, shit-talking, and wild speculation. I think I've learned more this morning from this nice 40 post thread, so cheers!
Looking at the FR graph makes me think the Ebony's are neutral. Next to being considered the most neutral X00 variant can they also be considered neutral in general? I ordered the PH variant but am a listener who appreciates deep Sub-bass rumble including good midrange. Should I sell my PH to get the Ebony instead?
I'm getting the THX00 Ebony soon (can't wait!) and am curious about the same. I get the feeling they're on the darker side of neutral, what with the scary-looking bass response and all, but it seems to be they could be close enough to neutral that they'd be genre-agnostic. Can't remember where I first came across that term, but I rather like it.
By the by, I got to try the TH-610 recently out of my Micro iDSD, and found it to be quite expansive-sounding. Anyone who's had the opportunity to A/B them: how's the imaging on the Ebony compare to the Walnut? Unless I'm very much mistaken they should be the same cans save for the one having a detachable cable (which I envy) and different cup material.
The detailed measurements and the original THx00 impressions threads definitely helped inform my purchase of these - so thanks to SBAF!
Got a pair of the THX00 Ebony about a month ago. I had my sights set on the EBs over the PH or Mahogany. I was hoping for a bit more neutrality. But ...honestly, I probably would have bought whichever version dropped first. It happened to be the EB.
These really shine for me on certain genres. I had on some Niacin on earlier (funk/fusion trio of keyboard of drums, bass, keyboard), and these absolutely hit it out of the park. Then I put on some 24/96 Phil Collins - really really good stuff. They fall apart for my tastes on certain more challenging genres like thrash/death/black metal (yes, I have no issue with Phil Collins and Bloodbath in a single sitting). I'm used to experiencing those genres on HD600s / HD650s - both of which handle metal with exceptional clarity and detail. The mercilessly detailed presentation is what I'm looking for when I listen to metal.
Next step for my Ebonies will probably be a cable modification so that it can be detachable and used w/ a 4 pin XLR. And a ZMF pad swap for better comfort (stock pads are just a tiny bit stiff and cramped for longer sessions at work. This is my first pair of headphones in the Foster/Fostex style - i.e. with the biocellulose driver. There is definitely a certain quality to the sound that is different from any other headphone that I've tried. I like it so much that I'm considering the ZMF Eikons as a future 'end-game' purchase.
With my apologies for only being able to offer the perspective of someone firmly rooted in mid-fi (though I have had the chance to listen to higher-end on friends' rigs), here are some unsolicited impressions of the X00 EB. I've had them for about two weeks now, and am just running them out of my iFi Micro iDSD (not the newer Black Label ver). Yep, don't worry, I'm saving up for better gear... after a new pen
The dips in measured frequency response are hardly noticeable, and that while these cans do have that "distant" sound you seem to get with recessed mids, I feel they're definitely balanced enough to play nice with any genre. Extension is likewise better than expected; lower registers on Oleg the Wise (fromBasso Profondo from Old Russia ) was well-defined, and the sub-bass on Crack Baby (off Mitski's Puberty 2 album) made my eyes feel like they vibrating out of sync with the rest of my head at what I'd say are moderate volumes. Definitely more bass than neutral, but manages to not be obnoxious.
I just got my iDSD back from repairs and was worried the shop'd somehow botched things because I was hearing really high-frequency fuckery on Taylor Swift's (a guilty pleasure) "Welcome to New York". Nope, turns out there really were a few isolated 14-17kHz peals in the track. Lucky me, my hearing tops out at about 17.5kHz at 24 years old. the 11kHz spike seen in Mr. Marv's measurements is more concerning to me since it translates to painful sibilance on some tracks. Listened to Eminem/Nate Ruess's Headlights on these and had to take em off because it felt like someone was jamming rusty wire into my ear. Unfortunately, same goes for several tracks on the Persona 4 soundtrack, which I love.
Some days, more than others, I want to believe in burn-in.
Sinatra's Ill Wind and Ebb Tide are amazing with these. Daft Punk's Contact makes me cry (because of the slightly whack treble), but Fragments of Time on the same album gets my foot tapping. Imaging isn't as great as on, say, the Elear, but the Fostexes manage to get me through Vivaldi's Four Seasons without complaint. Headstage is weirdly large for a closed can, but then I remember these are technically only semi-closed. Isolation/leakage is within acceptable parameters for a dude who risks offending sleeping people at 4AM in the morning with In Utero on repeat, but then again, I seldom crank the volume up past 10 o'clock on the iFi.
Tl;dr: I have pretty crap taste in music. Also, these are definitely nicely balanced, though the 11kHz spike might be a serious problem for some people, especially on newer/poorly mastered music.
Sorry for bumping this, but does anyone have measurements of TH-X00 Ebony with ZMF Ori pads vs stock?
@9suns This isn't apples to apples but it should at least give you an idea.
Would anyone be able to identify the species of ebony wood used here? Suspect it might be something like Macassar given the look of the striations, but can't be sure; product shots on Massdrop plus some others on the web look like Gabon.
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