Discussion in 'Music and Recordings' started by dark_energy, Jan 22, 2017.
Pineapple Thief "Demons"
Really digging the new Liquid Tension Experiment...
More Liquid Tension Experiment, this is fun.
No I haven't...IDK if I'll get a chance, but it would be really cool I think.
I do not play this one often. It is a masterpiece though. Only Gojira \m/
I might have overlooked this band. Let the instruments breathe more and this sounds a lot better.
Fresh Gojira \m/
Well... alright. So that was sick. It's like If Dogs Were Astronauts meets AAL with a little Owane or Plini in there. Maybe Jakub Zytecki? Disperse? Maybe even something a little David Maxim Micic. And then there's random old guard influences in there.
I almost passed it up as potentially being generic. I guess you could argue for that. I could go that way. But now I'm glad I didn't. Classy stuff, finger on the pulse, if you pretend for a second that this style of music has a 'school' in the sense that traditional jazz is a whole method in itself. I feel like they understood what they were doing with the sound, even though it's kind of all over the place - on a level you don't get *all* that often. I figure most good artists get a certain amount of those. And this is one, for me.
Watched half of the video, no drummer in sight. That bothers me. They don't sound bad. I want to see their drummer in action because a good drummer is worth his weight in gold.
You see, drummers/percussionists in the Jazz/Fusion/Prog-scene are beasts. The drummer for AAL, I saw his drum kit and it was not big. Thing is, what he did with is drum kit was grandiose. That dude did not make a show, but he was hard to ignore.
When bands with this kind of music omit the drummer, I am already done. On the subject of drummers and songs that are hard to categorise. Time for Ian Paice...
I hear you, it's my least favorite thing in this area, because yeah... those guys kick ass. It's often my favorite part of those kinds of songs... the rhythm is kind of everything. You need a really good drummer to even attempt this shit, I feel. Or use a machine if you're not known and maybe if you program them right a good drummer will be interested
I don't think I've ever seen a drummer play-through from a known band in this scene that wasn't amazing, minimum. I am totally hardened to it in a music video though, especially from sort of smaller deals. You almost never get that unless you actually go and see. So it ends up being like... watching instagram guitarists playing very well in a chairs, in a nice, curated space. Which is fucking boring. So I usually don't even watch. I didn't even know they didn't put a drummer in there. I didn't see the video. Did I describe it well? I'm guessing from the thumbnail there are a lot of sweeping pans and steep angle shots with narrow DOF... lots of warm colors and smooth gradients with the lighting. I know there's a fucking paper lamp in there somewhere.
A lot of times with these sort of collaborations I think sometimes things just don't work out. They actually don't have a drummer. But I'm sure they would love to have one! They probably deserve that much.
AAL's first album was all programmed drums. You saw the drummer playing in the video, but it wasn't even his stuff and you certainly didn't hear him on the album.
It's all sort of been up in the air since drum programming became viable. Mostly I think the reason is simply money, for the good ones, anyway.
Good drummers are hard to find. It takes years of dedication to turn hitting things rhythmically into an art. One of the reasons I dislike most Pop and Rap, I cannot imagine or hear a drummer. When that becomes a thing in Prog I will tap out. Imagine Prog without gems like this.
The drumming in "Knife-Edge" is one of the best examples of how essential drummers are. A good drummer is literally the heartbeat of the band. How do you give life to music without rhythm? Melodies but not everybody is Beethoven or Nick Drake. ( I am serious, his melodies are beautiful.)
After that I focus on the interplay/chemistry between the drummer and bassist. (Like Clyde Stubblefield & Bootsy Collins for example, yes I love Funk.) Kagrra (yes that band) had a sound that I so often miss in Rock and Prog. The way the drummer and bassist jam while the guitar melodies finish the whole sound of the song, breathtaking.
Nice I had never heard of Kagrra. One of my absolute favorite drummers is Marco Minnemann from The Aristocrats. Actually the whole band is made up of some of my favorite musicians, and consequently one of my favorite bands.
Louisville Stomp is a good one:
The Aristocrats, noted.
Back to regular listening again.
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