MrSpeakers ÆON Flow Open - Early Impressions and Measurements

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  1. Luckbad

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    Take this as blanket advice: do not mix music and gaming when you consider headphones.

    I tried and learned that they do not mix. You're handicapping one of the options by doing so.

    For positional audio, there are a few great options. My personal preference is Sennheiser HD598 for competitive FPSes. I used to use a dedicated gaming sound card for them, but my onboard audio is currently quite good for gaming.

    If you need my street cred for these recommendations, PM me.
     
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    how does this compare to HE X V2?
     
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    What about HD800 and TH900? I found these 2 to be the best headphones for both gaming and music.
     
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    I am getting some cans for a transportable setup with an ipad and iDSD micro Black Label. I am on the fence whether to get the AFO or the LCD2C. Since no one really knows my taste to a tee, I don't expect one to know which of the two cans I will prefer but would just like to know if anyone has noticed a particularly good synergy between the AFO and the idsd BL. If someone can also compare the former with the LCD2C idsd micro BL synergy, be my guest.
     
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    I have not tried the lcd2c. But, the pairing with AFO and idsd bl is quite good. Good authority and punch...very nice tonal balance. I enjoyed it very much.
     
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    I've been eyeing these headphones for several months now, but the statements about seal sensitivity have held me back since I wear glasses. I'm curious - just how bad is it? How does the bass level compare to the HD600 (or 650), for example? Or is it more than just bass response that's affected by seal?
     
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    AFO offers better extension at both ends. With bass being tighter (less bloom than 6xx) and with more extension. I'd give overall quality of the midrange a slight nod to the 650, but it's close.

    I wear glasses occasionally...readers mostly when I'm at the computer. So much of my time with AFO was with glasses and I was able to get a good seal with no loss of bass quality.
     
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    AFO sounds like ass when I wear my glasses. I am adamant they basically need a perfect seal to sound good. And they are quite good when you do so. Let's call it really hit or miss if it'll work for folks with glasses.

    I much prefer the HD650 when wearing glasses. Lighter, more comfortable, less clamp when you stretch them out, and little to no impact on sound.

    I think the HD650 has more dynamic sounding bass with the right amp, but the AFO is cleaner and extends deeper despite having a similar mid-bass emphasis.
     
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    With a break in seal, the AFO loses a good bit of its bass, but having said that it still might have more bass than the HD650 even without a perfect seal. Tough for me to say unless I've compared the two side by side.

    I've tried HD650 on a couple of different amps, never found its bass to be particularly strong sounding-- only thick out of a dark-sounding OTL tube amp, but that was an extreme case, and the bass still wasn't powerful.

    Might try looking into Hifiman planars. They're so open-air and don't really require a seal at all. In fact I dare say they get bassier with less than optimal seal.
     
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    My Clears went defective so I decided to get the AFOs while the Clears go through the return process. Some thoughts:

    Seal
    With careful placement, I can get to the point where I don't hear a difference between glasses-on vs glasses-off, but I can easily see someone with a different head/glasses having problems. FWIW, my glasses frame size is 55-14-140, to give some impression of my head size.

    Comfort
    They're very comfortable. I generally like clamp pressure more than top-of-head pressure. The HD6XXs are my most comfortable headphones. The AFOs are second. Other headphones I've owned are AKG 7XX, Hifiman 4XX and 400S, and Focal Clear.

    Sound
    I listened to these on 1) Modi Multibit->Magni 3 and 2) ADI-2 PRO (built-in amp). I kept the default filter (white felt, one notch). My primary point of reference was my HD6XXs. I listened to some pop, some electronica, and some choral/orchestral (Christopher Tin).

    I agree with the general consensus that bass is deep and strong. I found vocals (upper-mid?) to be a little blurry. On the Magni 3, it felt quite muddy. On the ADI-2, it was just slightly less resolving than the HD6XXs. The AFOs have significantly more isolation from outside noise than other open cans I've used. I don't feel qualified to assert anything else at this time, except to say that after rereading their reviews I think Tyll's impressions are spot on and I generally agree with everything @Hands said in the OP.
     
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    @geniekid For whatever it's worth, I hate the AFO through the Magni 3. A lot.

    Also, try it without the filters. I enjoy the filters when I need to tone things down, I'm tired, etc. But, while they effectively tame the treble, they also tend to dampen the sound and make it a bit more claustrophobic. Removing the filters adds some energy and clarity (in my opinion, of course).

    With the 1-notch white filter, they actually remind me a lot of the 650s.

    With the filters out, it feels like a completely different animal to me.
     

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