New Shanling M0 - Tiny DAP for 109$

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  1. ohshitgorillas

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    Yeah, with Mojo and to hook it up to my speakers. Chromecast audio is good but sometimes I want FLAC quality
     
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    Senorx12562 Case of the mondays

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    I only asked because I read of a bunch of people on hf who were using the m0 as part of a "stack" for portable use, quadrupling (or more) its size, of course, which I found kind of amusing. I sometimes use an original x5 as a source for my bedside setup or my main setup, but it has a s/pdif digital out, and just sits on a table. For me, the whole point of the m0 was the tiny ff combined with "good enough" sound for portable use, especially on a bicycle or motorcycle. Haven't heard any reports re the quality of the digital out on the M0 though. Sorry.
     
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    Head fi being head fi. Unfortunately, it's where the M0 updates are being posted nowadays.
     
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    Considering the nature of SBAF forum, I prefer to post here when I actually have some final update of firmware (like Fw2.2 on previous page) or answering questions. I'm trying to reduce "the noise" .

    Regarding quality of USB out, our engineers will tell you it's bitperfect and that is where it ends for them. Rest is up to audiophile discussion.
     
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    I would like to know, can this be used to receive phonecalls over Bluetooth when connected to a phone?
     
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    That is unfortunate that it does not offer headset functionality. Seems like a killer little thing otherwise, reminds me of the Clip Zip.
     
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    Anyone else having a problem with occasional bad lag/stuttering streaming LDAC HQ from the M0 to Sony MUCM2BT1?
     
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    I haven't checked since any of the recent updates but poor bluetooth range has been a complaint in this thread. On the early firmware it was a problem when I tried aptx. Bina said that some of these updates have addressed it but most of my listening is wired so I haven't tried it. Are you on the latest firmware?
     
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    Yeah, it was on the latest firmware. It's worse with higher bitrate files, so I'm guessing it's a hardware power limitation (distance was like 3 feet so I hope it's not a range issue). I found a decently priced ZX300a on ebay, so I'm returning the M0. Too bad; there's a lot to like about it.
     
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    From all the BT codecs, LDAC HQ is the one most sensitive to quality of signal. Then it's all about conditions. In building, subway, bus, etc, connection should be just fine. Open space, there it gets tricky. And also position of M0 can have some impact, if the signal needs to go through body, if screen with antenna is facing body.

    We even found your height and weight can affect signal. I'm tall and fat European and I can experience signal problems that none of my Chinese colleagues is able to reproduce.
     
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    I've experienced better BT connectivity than my iPhone or PC with the M0. I use the non-HQ LDAC paired to a Sony WH1000XM2 at work with no real complaints. I've gone about 20'-25' with walls in between before it starts acting up.
     
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    I am looking forward to hearing your thoughts on how they compare SQ wise (even from memory). The ZX300 is very nice sounding player, but I would like to get something smaller for when out and about. If the M0 gets close, it would be a very viable option.
     
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    It probably depends what you're driving. The M0 lacks power, the dynamics tend to sound steamrollered flat with some IEMs compared to bigger players. It will go loud, but will sound like a loud prairie.
     
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    Yep it's tineh and some sacrifices had to be made.

    My james444-modded a&d D6 are 105db and it does fine with it, and since I only ever use it in noisy environments there's absolutely no reason to look for something else.

    But you're never going to drive say, an aeon closed with it, and have it sound good, and the more inefficient IEMs need not apply.

    Im not sure what the cutoff would be, but anything above 100db efficiency should be fine.

    My only issue is its so small I sometimes fat finger the ui, and also I've lost it in coat pockets a time or three. :oops:
     
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    Not even, fairly easy stuff like Etymotic ER4-*R IEMs sound pretty lifeless from it. (98dB, so that sounds about right)

    My Noble Django maybe fare a little better- but I can't check the specs to see what their sensitivity is right now, as nobleaudio.com keeps trying to redirect me to nobleaudio.co.uk, which apparently no longer exists.
     
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