Prog Rock Rebels for Grumpy Old Men

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  1. sszorin

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    'Metal' and 'Prog Metal' were only a branch on a 'Rock' tree that has withered and died. As a genre they exist mainly as a pastiche of the sounds of the past.
     
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    Have just discovered this thread. An unexpected thread.

    The sparrow has issues with the term “Prog”. For those who don’t know, in the UK the term, for a long time, had a very negative connotation, and anything remotely related to (some/a lot of) the 70s’ bands (AND their excesses) in this genre was bad news. So, during the second half of the 70s, all of the 80s, and possibly half of the 90s—for a good 20 years, no less—Prog, in Britain, was synonym with rubbish, at least in the veeeery cool eyes and ears of many of the so-called music experts of the period, many of whom were just a bunch of cynical so-called (music) journalists. Cynicism, sadly, being a not so rare feature found in London (a city, btw, I love dearly in several ways).

    Anyway, and perhaps I really should apologise here, most of the music regarded as Prog this sparrow finds very, very, very boring, mostly empty (lacking substance), often self-indulgent and nearly always not real.

    The sparrow does not like Dream Theater, Yes or ELP, I'm afraid.

    The sparrow’s favourite band (of any genre) is King Crimson; his favourite musician is Robert Fripp. He also loves Brian Eno and David Bowie. (Fripp & Eno's No Pussyfooting is one of the best 10 albums the sparrow has ever heard in his life)

    The sparrow absolutely loves Van der Graaf Generator & Henry Cow.

    The sparrow thinks Tool are an absolutely brilliant band!

    The sparrow likes Porcupine Tree a lot (though certainly not as much as the aforementioned bands, or the one below this paragraph) and thinks Steven Wilson is an incredibly talented musician — some of SW’s solo material is truly excellent.

    Radiohead (what genre is it exactly, anyway? “Alternative”? Alternative to what??!!!) are (were?) an incredible band, and certainly the best I’ve heard in the last 25 years or so, definitely one of my all-time favourite bands.

    Can’t remember who mentioned Talk Talk in this thread (was it CEE TEE?), but The Colour of Spring, Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock are, without a doubt, fantastic albums — Spirit of Eden, in my not so humble opinion, is a true masterpiece — very, VERY rarely do you get to hear an album where NOT a single note is wasted, where everything is intentional AND real. A timeless true album. Real music contained throughout this album.

    The sparrow was fortunate enough to see KC twice last year in London, and, if he’s alive, will be seeing them again twice in London again in September and twice in Madrid in November this year.

    Here’s a gem from the current KC line-up (recorded 7 months ago in Japan): Do a search on YouTube with the words “easy money dgm live”
     
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    While suspicious of individuals who use the 3rd person to refer to themselves, interesting perspective nonetheless.
     
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    I've been a huge fan of sprawling, long & varying songs since I was 10, when I heard Metallica's One. That song just goes around and around and builds up beautifully until the end. I think it's pretty much prog, in the metal genre at least. Iron Maiden made some songs (Hallowed Be Thy Name..) in that vein, but they didn't catch my attention quite the same.

    Opeth's Micke Åkerfeldt seems to be the new master of this metal-y prog thing. He's got a strong 70's vibe, amongst the death metal. Ghost Reveries was special album for me in this regard. I listened to lots of their previous records, but that was the one that got it right. The rhythms and arrangements are just super-tight. Beautiful.

    I love the Mars Volta too, De-Loused is a modern classic!


    Almost forgot, Mastodon's Crack The Skye. The best metal band of the 2000's, they get very proggy too.
     
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    The new Alcest is amazing!

     
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    Saw these guys basically by accident in Fort Worth once. I was very pleasantly surprised and I still listen to Grand Opening and Closing album sometimes. What an amazing concert they put on!
     
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    Never really could get into Dream Theater myself but I have listened to King Crimson since like 1st grade and I've seen them live. I used to buy everything and anything they put out. Tony Levin has been a huge influence on my bass playing. Don't listen to a whole lot of prog these days but I'm always open to something different and interesting and sometimes I'll fire up some Crimso or something else.
     
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    Hi guys, I come back from a long sleep and I would like your opinion on this band : Plini, here is a sample that you can listen to from the latest album



    Plini became top 3 band in my ranking because of such diversity and this djent trend it exhibits sometimes. But I would like to know if one of you knows it or simply what do you think of it.
     
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    Plini's been on my radar for a while but I kept putting off listening to his music on Bandcamp for whatever reason. Very solid track, buying music now. :)
     
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    @ibzrg1570 so I see a guy in the Prog rebels thread who's interested by Plini... May I request a nickname on Bandcamp ? Mine is there : Valolilol
     
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    I'm not that active on Bandcamp but my username there is AaronAAaronson.
     
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    New songs from the Neal Morse band



     
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    It's been a while since last post in this thread,but I still want to get some answers from this thread if anyone could help.
    I've been into Pink Floyd/Dream Theater/Riverside for quite a long time(I feel very sad on hearing Piotr Grudziński passed away),and reaally like the side project of Dream Theater called"Liquid tension experiment"(I almost hear these two discs at least once a week),and now I want to go into King Crimson,is there anyone can recommend any album for a King Crimson newbie?Or any band whose style is close to Dream Theater?
     
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    Bands like Dream Theater and Riverside :
    • Haken
    • Fates Warning
    • Shadow Gallery
    • Threshold
    • Symphony X
    • Katatonia
    • Evergrey
     
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    Since prog metal has already been mentioned, I've recently gotten in to power metal. Bands like DragonForce and Sabaton/Civil War have really been a sort of throwback to the grandeur of 70s ambitions, owing at least as much to prog rock as thrash metal.

    There is a level of homogeneity to prog rock though, same themes from the same demographic. Maybe its my inexperience with the genre, but I'd like to find some radically different takes on prog rock, any suggestions?
     
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    @anetode: check out some of my posts earlier in this thread. For me, prog rock is an umbrella term.

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    Start with the first albums and take your time. King Crimson is not just some band...
     
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