RAAL requisite audio SR1a Review: HOLY MOLY! Buy this now!

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  1. purr1n

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    Of course it's less efficient! Need a damn speaker power amp (with corresponding high gain) and need to crank up volume knob!

    A similar setup would be cranking my JBL speakers to 100db SPL while sitting 8ft away.
     
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    The QSC RMX class AB stuff you recommended a while back was good and super reliable. You just need to swap out the fan if you want to push it.

    Also excellent are the cheap TI class d chip amps. The 300 wattish or so ones are quite good, especially the newer one, if you don’t push them too hard. They’re better than a ton of cheap class ab and class d amps. They murder the old hyped ucd and icepower stuff.
     
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    Hey Psalm, you got a link for this? Interested...
     
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    Had a little event in store today with Raal's Danny who brought a few extra SR1a and something really neat.

    [​IMG]

    New prototype amp/dac specially made by Schiit for the SR1a. Using the Jot body so pay no mind to that for now. Here is a top down view of the sticker.

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    For the event I had a few setups with the Schiit prototype amp, McIntosh MHA150/MA252, Moon 340i/600i, and Chord SPM3350.

    Best feedback I had was for the Schiit, MA252, and SPM3350. The Moon 340i I wasn't too pleased with so I swapped it out with the 600i. Had an attendee bring in his Schiit Ragnarok but didn't hear that one myself.

    The MA252 I had it with the Wisdom S10 subwoofer with a 2 channel setup and it happened to be on while doing a demo and ended up being quite popular with the SR1a. Happy accident.

    The prototype Schiit was nuts though. It had overwhelmingly positive feedback from attendees and it freaking rocks with the SR1a. $1400 was the projected price point, will be available to Raal dealers, possibly 60-90 days away from launch.
     
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    Protoheim looks awesome. I didn't imagine it realized this early (thought of next year or so) ..
     
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    Cool that Jason has a prototype going already... haha no wonder seeing his wow reaction: ~0.25secs into the vid.

    Does it still need that crazy resistor/trans interface box, or direct to the headphones with it (protoJot)?
     
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    Wow. Didn't expect this to happen so quickly. I'd buy one right now for the office.

    How do you think it compares to running it off a nice-ish speaker amp, e.g. the 600i or 252?
     
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    That sticker tho :D

    Schiit people know their marketing onions, that's for sure!
     
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    I'm probably in the minority on this issue, but one potential barrier for me is my steady diet of music that either sounds like it was recorded in a shed or contains a lot of blast-beats. Maybe 20% of what I listen to could be considered well-recorded. Some of the FR characterizations make me wonder if this guy would be a good match for my music.

    I mean, has anyone thrown some Jane Doe era Converge on one of these, to enjoyable result?

    Edit: more contex/better framing: speed and impact with congested recordings seem like they would be troublesome here, given the previous comments, though not certain. Anyone have the opportunity to test with metal/hard rock and enjoy the more exciting qualities of these recordings?
     
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    The short answer is that I keep the Mysphere 3.2 around for that stuff.

    Only about 15-20% of the tracks I listen (metal, light rock, some JPOP, Asian vocals from the 80s/90s) to are what I would call "unlistenable" on the SR1a, mostly the ones with poor processing on top of subpar recording setups. But the resolution and speed does make at least a plurality of the kind of music I listen to less than perfectly enjoyable. If you listen to metal and hard rock, some of it is going to sound really bad on the SR1a's because they aggressively expose flaws in the music production process.

    On the other hand, with the good stuff performance is incredible, and you can run a K1000 or HE5/6 on the same chain and use them when you do want to listen to the bad recordings.
     
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    Another way to phrase the question with a well-known reference:

    Is Raal worse than Sennheiser HD800 with bad recordnings?
     
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    They expose far more flaws.
     
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    C'mon, really? The best you can do is toss out the usual audiophile "...exposes more flaws" descriptor?

    When people called the HD800 "ruthlessly revealing," what it actually meant was they had a fucked treble response. That's why everyone resorted to getting specific amps and/or modding them. Yeah, yeah, they initially tried to say, "it will let you know when something is recorded or mastered poorly," but everyone knows that was just an excuse to justify a problem.

    It would be like saying the HD650 is just really revealing of overly bassy music, when in fact it's just that the HD650 is a bloated sort of headphone.

    There's a lot of heavily compressed rock/metal/pop that sounds perfectly fine barring any major performance issues from your gear...like lots of distortion, ringing, messed up response, etc.

    Actually, I would argue that decent sounding metal is a litmus test for audio gear. If you cringe when it comes through your speakers/headphones, they probably got some fuckery going on.

    There's nothing wrong with calling out problems for what they are. Nor does a problem disqualify something from being worth of consideration or still excellent. Some people can live with certain problems. Some won't notice them. Let's lay out the variables, so we can all make educated purchasing decisions, rather than be mouth-breathing simpletons that need to come up with excuses to sugar coat everything.
     
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    I wasn't commenting on FR specifically - the SR1a's imaging is more precise and weirdness of placement is indeed very readily noticable.

    There's also the matter that the HD800s is simply not as resolving, and doesn't put compression artifacts in your face to the extent that SR1a's do.

    The treble spike's role in compatibility with poor recordings I consider third fiddle to the imaging and resolution. I guess a more precise answer would be that more often than not the HD800s sounds bad on recordings because of the heat in the upper range, but the SR1a sounds bad because artifacts and bad mixing is 100% in your face.

    I would add that the Mysphere feels more forgiving not because of poor resolution but because the open frame imaging and the mid-range emphasis allows vocals to be well defined even when recordings are mushy. Bad instrument recordings still sound bad on them.
     
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    Do you have an example track to back up your point? There's a much higher likelihood that it's simple stuff, like frequency response, ringing, distortion, etc, emphasizing compression artifacts than resolving ability.
     
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    I feel similarly about HD800s. I have also found a similar background noise to be frustrating, but for me it was correlated to OS DACs. The Nagra you have is a pretty expensive DAC, but I wonder if you would hear these “mixing errors” with an analog source? Maybe it’s the reconstruction. If you want to try a Metrum Adagio NOS, I’m local to you.
     
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    Catching up with this thread, and sorry if this has been previously answered/explained re burst response measurements. But does the x-axis position of the leading edge have any relation to how "fast" the headphones are?
    i.e. Elex < LCD3 < SR1a
     
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    Leading edge ... correlation with initial attack?
     

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