RAAL requisite audio SR1a Review: HOLY MOLY! Buy this now!

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  1. EagleWings

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    Are there any amps that you would recommend for the SRA1 that don’t run hot? Now that I am in India, a heater is the last thing I want in my living or bed room.
     
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    So with a direct drive amp, would Raal sell just the headphone without the 600$ resistor box as a lite package? That would offset the cost nicely for a dedicated amp.
     
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    Quick question Marv; when you mention Saga here do you mean the OG Saga or one of the new Thunderdome Sagas?

    Ooh if only we could get our hands on one for loaner.....
     
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    The Class AB stuff won't run hot.

    OG Saga. I haven't heard the newer Sagas.
     
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    I was looking for any additional input about the comparison of bass between K1000 and SR1a. Does the bass change markedly with different amps? I’m very interested in SR1a but weak bass may be a deal breaker. I can’t use subs because kids are sleeping.
     
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    Danny mentioned that they were looking into a scaled down versions I don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility. It does seem like the sr1a is a runaway success for raal and they are still scaling up to meet current demand.
     
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    The K1000 have a midbass bump, and then suddenly takes a huge dump so there is basically nothing under 80Hz. If we think we are hearing stuff below 80Hz, it's the second and third harmonics. The Requisite SR1a in contrast has flatter lows with a slow roll-off below 100Hz, usable to 30Hz, where it then takes a dump, and even then, the dump isn't all that steep.

    Requisite did something quite ingenious here. Unlike the K1000 speakers which are fully suspended in front of the ears with a space on either side of the driver, the SR1a rests the inner side of the baffle with a strip of foam against the side of the face, thereby increasing effective baffle width, thus extending the bass response.

    I thought about a sub, but after light EQ -2.5db on 1.8kHz and -3.5db at 7kHz, I realized that I didn't need one. (Another alternative might be to use a +3b shelf below 1.5kHz.) It's all relative between highs and lows. After this EQ, I didn't feel the SR1a was bass light or bright at all. And to be honest, it's only on modern brightly mastered recordings where I feel this EQ is necessary.

    The bass is solid. That third bass note on Daft Punk's Doin' It Right at 37Hz is clearly audible. I have no plans for a sub. However, the bass does have slow roll-off akin to acoustic suspension speaker designs; and any punchiness has more the result of its transient response rather than midbass boost. So if you are a basshead, or are love the sound of DD IEMs with massive forceful fuzzy bass, or want to crank up Sir Mix-A-Lot's Baby Got Back, then the SR1a won't do it for you. I will say that at moderate-loud volumes, the SR1a is capable of breaking out all the low notes in Baby Got Back without a sweat. Nice, punchy, sustained. Albeit a decibel or two lower than it should be. Bottom line is that I cannot say that I am dissatisfied with the bass extension and volume.

    Think of this way: SR1a has more extended bass than the HD650, less bass in terms of volume, and higher quality bass. Also, the K1000 driver can't touch the SR1a. The Sony MA900, another headphone suspended drivers (semi-suspended), has no deep bass and lacks tactility compared to the SR1a.
     
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    A very good amp that can be usually be had for under $500 used is the Anthem MCA20 - it has a good deep soundstage with lots of slam and good detail. It's a slightly warm sounding amp which outputs 200w into 8 ohms. It has been tried and tested with the HE-6 by multiple people and I couldn't imagine why it wouldn't pair very well with the SR1a.
     
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    Can't remember if I mentioned this already, but I have an Acurus A250 sitting around gathering dust I was thinking about trying with the SR1A. This thing has a majorly beefy toroidal transformer and big-ass caps. I'm not an electronics guy, but the approach seems pretty straight forward. Anyone have more experience with it?

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    I had an A250 too, ages ago. Actually still have it but caps crapped out. It was a decent amp for sure. I used it and a GFA-555 with Thiels back in the day.

    Recently, I picked up an old 80W Goldmund amp thinking I could use it in a nearfield monitor system or for headphones. Turns out it's got better clarity, detail, and air than the First Watt F7 I've been using. But when I connected HD800s for the hell of it, the thing freaked out. Without music playing, even. It's got some sort protection circuitry that balks at non-speaker load impedances, it seems. So I guess I need RAALs. That's my excuse.
     
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    I've listend to that one, the V110SE, the REF75, and a couple DIY-ish KT88's that are in the 100wpc ballpark.

    It's slower for sure. More "normal" and with treble rolloff. On the one hand, it's a good way to dampen the treble brightness, and some people might subjectively think that the SR1a's are too fast which tubes will also address. But dollar for dollar, I can't think of a good argument for a tube amp over a hybrid or just a warm-ish solid state. Part of this is that 100w+ tube designs are hard and overdampened. But there's also the issue of heat and size to contend with.

    Unless you're talking about absolutely stratospheric stuff, a tube preamp that you can swap out is probably the better call.
     
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    I know getting accurate bass measurements for the SR1a may be difficult, but your latest EARS measurements for the SR1a, HD600/650, etc. seem to suggest the HD650 would be better extended. Granted, I think we all know how the HD650 can mask any good bass traits with the mid-bass bloat, relatively high distortion, and not-incredibly-fast driver response in that area.

    Did you happen to gather distortion and CSD results for the SR1a? Curious if they might flesh out the story.
     
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    I was in a good friend house today and connected a hd800 vanilla directly with banana plugs into this amp. I was wondering if I could use the hd800 as a parameter searching for a good power amp to use with Raal. The sound was very satisfying on par with the Zana Deux super, in my memory. His dac it’s a Ps audio DSdac. Maybe a little less treble than my Zana Deux, but I use a Yggdrasil. This amp had way better bass control, and the timbre was excellent. I think you could easily find one of these in US. And it’s a beautiful piece of gear. Sadly, it’s too expensive for me here in Brasil. 100w into 8ohms
     
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    I'll crank those measurements out in a bit. In the meantime, I really want to emphasize how EQ does wonders here, more than any other headphone. I've tended to shy away from EQ with headphones because it just never seemed to work totally right. It would fix some things, but still not be able to fix strange timbre, etc. I surmise the reasons for this are as follows: 1) already smooth frequency response of SR1a; 2) no internal cup reflections which cause artifacts or variances because of positioning.

    What I've found that any kind of weirdness (bass light, thin, scratchy, bright, etc.) including weirdness in timbre, completely goes away with minor EQ correction. This allows a greater latitude of amplification, so it's not necessary to use amps that sound laid-back, tube-like, or mellow in the highs.

    No EQ
    RTA - EARS with SBAF compensation
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    Here are the EQ settings I used:

    1700Hz -3db Q=1.5
    7000Hz -4db Q=1.5
    We could probably be more aggressive and use Q=1.2, but I prefer a light touch.

    EQ applied
    RTA - EARS with SBAF compensation
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    Moral of the story: Don't be afraid to use EQ. It's free if you use computer-based audio. It's much easier this way rather than finding the right "synergic" amp, preamp, or source.
     
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    Haha, that's pretty similar with how I eqed. I am using Loki with 2k knob 11:30 and 8k knob 9 o'clock. Been happy with this setting for two weeks.
     
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    Note: The driver is hitting excursion limits below 30Hz. This is one done at the usual levels ~100db.
    The SR1a does not like to be driven loud. Note that the distortion is mostly 3rd order.
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    Here is a measurement at SPL 10db lower than above.
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    CSD Topview
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    CSD
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    NOTE: no cup or earpad interactions. We do get some low level "ripples" which are common to planar type drivers.
     
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    Elex 50Hz
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    LCD3 50Hz
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    SR1a 50Hz
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    Elex 120Hz
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    LCD3
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    SR1a 120Hz
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    Elex 1.5kHz
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    LCD3 1.5kHz
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    SR1a 1.5kHz
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