Roon Discussion

Discussion in 'Computer Audiophile: Software, Configs, Tools' started by AllanMarcus, Jul 3, 2016.

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  1. dubharmonic

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    Has anyone noticed extremely high outbound traffic from roon? What could it possibly be doing that would require this much data? The process has been running for only a few days.

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  2. GoodEnoughGear

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    They are moving more and more Metadata into the cloud, but that does seem excessive.
     
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    Are you using Roon ARC? That would produce traffic of such dimensions. Should only be during actual use, though, i.e. if you have installed ARC but don’t use it, that’s no explanation.
     
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    Data sent would also include any audio sent over the network to non-USB endpoints. Pi2AES and so on. Have any of those?
     
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    You're exactly right, I forgot about the roon endpoint!

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    if you’re still looking, check out the B&W Formation Flex. The fit your size constraint, they’re good with AirPlay and Roon, and they sound perfectly ok for the price point.
     
  7. AllanMarcus

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    Harman, the wholly-owned subsidiary of Samsung Electronics, announced the acquisition of Roon.

    For those that have heard yet.
     
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    Oh god...
     
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    While they have a point that "getting a startup to escape velocity is a struggle", isn't the idea of a startup being swallowed by a major conglomerate only to eventually bend the corporate knee and compromise its original values to its consumers a running joke at this point? I'm sure Roon wants things to continue as normal, but once you get snatched up they own you, and shareholders demand "infinite growth".
     
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    They need to add more services says my wife (Spotify).
     
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    True but I would have problems defining Roon core values, I do not see what would be the impact of "compromizing their values"
    They stepped into the MQA shit (thousands of hours of development for nothing) because they were small and their gullible clients demanded? it. That meant neglecting important new fixes and features.
    For example their album identification for classical music, and using FLAC tags is abismal. In most cases once you add an album to your library , the composer name disappears.
    As long as they do not play stupid with RAAT, and will not jack up the price, we will have to see how they evolve. I can see a lot of Roon hardware showing on audio market.
     
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    Seems like a good thing for everybody - there are a lot more things that could happen now thanks to Samsung’s experience with their partners. The audio correction stuff and built in presets (only for Sony’s Audezes for now) are ripe for broader adoption. It wouldn’t be that crazy to see integration with Youtube Music and Spotify and everything people like to use. And I wouldn’t mind to see cheaper first party servers and endpoints…
     
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    Hows Roon working out for ya for Apple Silicon Chip users nowadays? Roon was a buggy mess even when they supported native Apple Silicon chips and then the mass amount of data it sends to the internet. Also being online only made me say ewww at times. Reasons like this is why I stop subbing it.
     
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    Roon was buggy on an M1 Mac Mini for me and I moved it back to a intel Mac Mini i5 with 64GB ram and UB-C access to my 6 drive array. So far, so good. I don't do upsampling or DSD conversion (a good separate conversation after experimenting).

    My primary use case for Roon is EQ capabilities on headphones. I also use it as a Sonos replacement as I can easily control (as can my wife) a variety of devices and endpoints, including legacy Sonos equipment. Being able to EQ specific speakers around the house has been nice. EX: I increased the midrange and higher frequencies on my JBL L75MS to increase low volume clarity.

    I deactivated my Pi-Hole for my Roon Server, but I think I will reactivate it to check telemetry and bandwidth given the change. I really dislike backdoors, but have found that most applications aren't broken by stopping their call home feature.

    As much as I like Roon, I would love to see a desktop device that would be digital in/out with a computer interface that would allow for detailed EQ profiles. I know there are some things out there, but they seem to be less convenient to me than Roon at this time.
     
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    Roon is quite versatile with its EQ, but at a very significant price. I do the same EQ that Roon does with my speakers and headphones with JRiver and a Free VST plugin. And I can have as many EQ profiles as I am comfortable using.
     
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    Ok I'm trying Roon again after being really discouraged by it my first time because I think of and organize my Tidal library by favoriting artists and often but not always favoriting an album by that artist, and Roon, well it still does this which I think is ridiculous, because my whole Tidal library is not in Roon since I don't have favorite albums for every artist. But I have favorited more albums since then since they show up in BubbleUpnp making them easy to play. So it might be usable for music discovery if not playback.

    But I can't favorite new artists from the Roon app. The heart is grayed out, and so is the "Add to library" button in the drop down menu. Is this because I'm on a trial membership or can I really not favorite newly discovered artists from the Roon app? I'm only interested in trying it again for music discovery so this makes it kind of a PITA and not worth it.

    but there must be a reason they are grayed out?

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  18. rlow

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    Never noticed this before, but it seems that the artist must be present at least once in your “library” before you can favourite them, even if it’s just an appearance/contribution on another album in your library by another artist.

    For instance, I have no Taylor swift albums in my library, but she makes an appearance on an album by The National, so I can favourite her. But other artists with no appearances I cannot.
     
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    Strange. Must be a Tidal implementation thing? I've never run into this over the last few years with Qubuz.
     
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    Why on earth would they intentionally restrict the usability of their service like this? I don't know, I think it is Roon trying to force me to think about my library in terms of albums instead of artists like it wants. Which is just crazy to me, I will never browse a list of albums to find something to listen to, I want to browse a list of artists, find the artist I want to listen to, then find the album by that artist that I want to listen to.

    It's very easy to favorite any new album from an artist radio station or anywhere else.

    This just feels like iOS not letting me do things for no good reason which is really frustrating me at the moment.

    to make this work and favorite an artist I find, Ii will have to sit here with my iPhone and the Tidal app open to my list of favorited albums, favorite an album in Roon, then wait for it to show up in the Tidal app, click on it, then click on the artist, then click to favorite that artist, then go back to the favorite albums section of the Tidal app.

    Unless Roon radio is bind blowing I'm passing for a second time. I'm really not interested in a service that tries this hard to force me to do things in a way that is totally unnatural to me.

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