Thanks! I had added Vega to my list to try this week (and will give Lyra II a go as well) although I suspect the treble may not be what I am looking for. Thanks guys! Oriolus was one that I was starting to consider after further research. Unfortunately can't demo any of the Oriolus, EE or JVC iems here, so will have to think hard about it. JVC probably not at the top of my list based on the treble comparison from Stuff Jones. I might have another listen to the 846 and think more carefully about whether I could live with it. I have listened to the Andromeda for almost 2 years exclusively and enjoyed it so I suppose I certainly don't have a huge problem with the treble, probably just time to try something new / different. Lately I had been working then studying at night and by the time I get to listen to music at the end of the day the Andromeda is often too much for my tired brain.