Sonnet Digital Audio's Morpheus Reviews

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  1. bilboda

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    Never had a USB issue but I always used it with an Intona and lps until the I2S board arrived for my 502aes. Now the USB goes thru A Matrix SPDIF2 using AES and HQPlayer upsampling 4x. I am not hearing much of a difference with either input, same source, Roon/Tidal streaming. I am 5db down at 8khz so any roll off is lost on me, silver lining..
     
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    Sad to see they didn't improve the crappy USB input...

    On the Jade, I2S is definitely the way to go! I very quickly stopped using the USB input and used the Eitr even before I removed the USB module.

    How's the bass performance compared to Yggdrasil A2? To my surprise, bass is the one aspect where I found the Jade bested all the other DACs in a similar price range I tested (Yggdrasil A2, DirectStream Jr, Pro iDSD, Hugo 2). It's punchy yet very tuneful.
     
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    Haven't heard the Jade other than ur setup at zmfestivus but bass was better than the Yggdrasil a2 and similar to how you describe the jade for me.
     
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    Nothing weird about it. If you listen through inferior equipment you'll get inferior results. If you watch the video they also talk about their experiences as they're watching it and you can either agree or disagree with their conclusions.
     
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    So, all your Morpheus impressions are based on 4X upsampling? That's a huge differentiating factor if so.

    And having hearing loss doesn't make hardware roll-off a moot point to you. It's a compounding element.
     
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    You missed the point. If your going to spend big bucks you might as well buy a used dac from a higher price point. There are a ton of dacs at $5000 that sound better and the $7000 dollar dacs usually have additional features like preamp section as well. If your paying big bucks you need big results.
     
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    This is your logic? If you're going to buy used, look at used pricing across the board. If you're willing to spend $5,000 and get no warranty, that seems pretty asinine to me but that's a whole other subject.

    Please keep the noise down and contribute something meaningful next time. TIA.
     
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    You need to start reading my posts clearly. I said $5000 dacs new and used dacs from $7000 dollars and up like the weiss and the Rockna. If it's not contributing to your way of thinking then disregard. I've listened to the the rockna, weiss, and even the bricasti m3 at $5000. I like their sound signature much better and was not impressed with the morpheus. It's just my opinion at the end of the day!
     
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    Now YOU’RE the guy I need:
    I am actually hesitating between the most basic WaveDream and the M3!
    Care to talk about the differences in more detail? And compared to the Yggdrasil A2 tier of DACs that I’m currently in?
     
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    I don't want to highjack this thread but since we're talking big money here people need to know alternatives that they might like better than the morpheus. I don't like the morpheus or metrum acoustics dacs...they seem really bland to me and as I noted earlier on the first page of this thread there was a fairly detailed shootout between the Pavane, the Morpheus, and Weiss dacs. The Weiss dac also has some additional features but is also twice the cost but no preamp needed. I'm going to link some very good youtube videos for those interested in dacs in the above $3000 price range but below $10,000.

    Bricasti M3 demo with their high end amps. Very good for speed and percussions.



    Rupert Neve dac coming out. This is a review but still enlightening!



    Rockna on some large horn speakers but you still get a taste of their smoothness. I'd say the rockna is the most polite and well balanced.



    Morpheus shootout!

     
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    1 hour and 40 min video comparing 2 DACs???

    I’d rather buy the wrong one.
     
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    Watch the last 30 minutes if your pressed for time. They review the Weiss and come up with closing conclusions. It's all you need but I do need to give the public the whole video.
     
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    It's a datapoint, but c'mon, SBAF has always been to keep to firsthand experience. I would say it's part of the culture and credo here. Linking to external sources for evidential support is extremely frowned upon here. The virtual hearsay is a first one though! :)
     
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    Can we have an execution?
     
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    Well, before you did reviews and first hand experiences on the rockna I knew it was a really good dac due to my virtual experiences. It's also quite fun to live stream during the middle of the night from the netherlands when your in the US. I've got about 30 youtube channels dealing with audio topics including people who make their own drivers first hand who I support through patreon. I didn't know there was a requisite for having tested the unit first before you could post about a product. What I will say is the Videos I choose are a good representation due to recording quality of the channels I do participate in. If you want a list of my channels there pretty good and really fun to cross reference thirty ways to china.
     
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    Only 4x when using USB to Matrix Spdif 2/AES, native when using 502AES/I2S.

    How does the high frequency roll off affect sound in the lower frequencies?

    I suppose I could use Roon upsampling for the 502AES too.
     
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    My bad, I mixed up @bilboda - who's had first hand experience with the Morpheus - with @DigitalMaven - who didn't... :rolleyes:
     
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    I talked to Marv and I knew I probably would dislike the Morpheus given that I like the XSP.

    I'm not really sure what it is exactly that bothers me. Nothing sounds "wrong". It just doesn't engage me in any way. The fact that I'm browsing the forums, replying to PMs, and such while I am listening is not a good sign.

    There's a sort of pervasive roundedness in everything it does. This is not necessarily a bad thing and contrasts really nicely against the X-Sabre Pro, which is kind of the opposite (everything is intense, modern, and square). Everything, and I mean everything, sounds polite.

    ^ This.

    I also get the whole "grasping at straws" feeling of trying to figure out where it's just not engaging. It's not the dynamics; it has plenty of that. It's also not unresolving. I used headphones in my evaluation, and the stage, while much different than what I'm used to, wasn't something that I thought was necessarily bad (headphones suck at stage). It's also not the rolled-off nature (if this were the case I'd dislike Bifrost 2). I just don't want to listen to it. I don't like this thing one bit. This is the second day for it powered on. I'm still not digging it.

    I get that this might be just a matter of taste, but I agree completely with @JK47's statement of "if this is NOS, count me out."

    Also, the USB implementation is complete crap. In my opinion, this is inexcusable on a product that costs this much (and let me be clear; I'm not asking for something like Schiit Unison, or heck, even XMOS. Just something that sounds decent; is that too much on a DAC that costs over $3k?). Maybe it would be excusable if the performance was such that it would cause the clouds to part and the angels to sing.

    Edit: I don't think the Morpheus does macrodynamics well. I'm left wanting with any big hits. If anyone is familiar with the ZMF Auteur, it's kind of the same sense of gentle politeness, except taken to another level.
     
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