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  1. Cspirou

    Cspirou They call me Sparky

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    I would not recommend this, especially for point to point wiring. I haven't used Harbor Freight, but I did start with super cheap irons. They took forever to heat up and I had to hold the iron there for 30-40 seconds before anything melted. Velleman iron is as cheap I would go.
     
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    Specifically, a rosin core solder, and one that isn't too thick. I like Kester solder.

    Also - if you don't have a multi-meter, you will need one. It is an absolute requirement for building a Crack.

    If you want a good cheap iron, give this a shot. http://a.co/i0ce7qZ It's a lot more than $5, but it should last a long long time.

    Oh yeah, while I'm spending your money, make sure you have one of these.
     
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    Ditto! I never liked my cheap ass RS Iron, no control over the heat, took forever to solder some speaker cables to connectors.

    Much, much happier with variable heat Weller like this one:

    link
     
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    I guess it depends what you're used to. I've built my Crack and assembled/disabled/reassembled mechanical keyboard kits with bargain bin 30W irons.

    All of the above are sold choices if @lm4der doesn't mind spending more.
     
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    Different philosophies, that's all. I grew up being preached at that you never buy cheap tools. My grandfather was a mechanic.

    There's nothing wrong with an inexpensive iron for a single project.
     
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    JustAnotherRando My other bike is a Ferrari

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    I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but I've found that a small chisel tip is much easier to use than the conical tips that come as standard on cheap irons. A tip only costs a small handful of dollars. Something shaped like this: https://www.amazon.com/Hakko-T18D16P-Fx-888-Station-1-6mm/dp/B004OR9BV4

    @maverickronin I am impressed you've done keyboards with a cheap iron, that would have driven me nuts (I borrowed a modest soldering station when I tried that).
     
  7. Cspirou

    Cspirou They call me Sparky

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    Yeah, if you are able to go beyond the stock tip then definitely go with something bigger. Retains more heat.
     
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    LetMeBeFrank Won't tell anyone my name is actually Francis

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    Exactly. I always buy the highest quality tools I can afford.

    My grandfather was an engineer and my father was a tool-maker, both for Chrysler, and both were mechanics before that. I have tools twice my age that I've inherited from my father and his father before him. All of my oldest tools were very expensive but they all still work perfectly, despite being well-used, because they were high quality when purchased. Another thing I was always taught is that tools go back where they belong before you leave the garage for the night, otherwise forget any sense of order. Some of my friends have garages and toolboxes that look like a tornado came through, its pure chaos and gives me a headache just looking at it.
     
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    I'm sorry for bringing this up if it has been answered later in this thread, and for not introducing myself. People are arguing over Audio Science Review and their measurements of Modi 2 Uber vs D30, where people claim that you take measurements with a Wyrd based on the quote above. I wonder if you could state whether you do this or not to settle this.

    Posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones...rement_and_comparison_of_schiit_modi/dyyv5oa/
     
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    The latest set of measurements of the Modi 2U and D30 in the D30 and AverLAB threads were done with the AverLAB. Hence, they did not use Wyrd, unless SPDIF coax was used.

    Prior measurements of the Modi 2U, if any, which means posts over a month ago, might have used Wyrd.
     
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    No disrespect, but please don't be thick.

    I did not took the measurements, nor was I involved in it. But the plots have AverLAB's logo on the top left hand corner. So yes, obviously.

    Again, AverLAB is a brand of audio measurement equipment. Similarly, measurements done with an Audio Precision have an AP logo.
     
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    I didn't ask for myself. You're quite oblivious if you think people with a bias against Schiit or SBAF, or anything in general, really, will connect the dots by themselves. People love to take any opportunity to speculate, jump to their own conclusions, or play dense. Often a combo of everything.
     
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    I understood your confusion. Therefore I posted a link to Avermetrics. You ignored it. So I called your attention by saying "don't be thick". I think we are on the same page now.

    There is not much that can be done against a strong case of bias. As an example, I made fun in the past about Amir-bits and his use of linearity to come up with them and draw conclusions. I don't see that changing anytime soon. Few things if any have changed. His strong reliance on jitter performance to pass judgment is also probably not going to change anytime soon either.

    EDIT: While things should be called as we see them, the fact that it is very difficult to change certain people's minds is why a f**k should be given. But not two.
     
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  18. purr1n

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    Yes. Those measurements are straight USB from cheapo $600 HP PC desktop.

    Actually, we don't really care if people biased against Schiit or SBAF won't connect the dots. Whatever contrary evidence is presented, they still won't connect the dots, or worse, use tidbits of information taken out of context to bolster their beliefs. Audio Science Review is not about science. Real scientists are cautious and deliberate in coming to conclusions. Modern science often requires others to duplicate their results. Finally, if one accepted the argument that FFTs are the end-all be-all of measurements correlating to all experienced subjective sound phenomena, then NONE of these measurements would matter because environmental noise and tranducer distortion is going to mask the non-linear behaviors of 90% of amps and 99% of DACs.
     
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    I have not owned the P1s, but it is my understanding from others here that it is a bit more difficult to drive than a typical balanced armature like the Noble X for example. The N3 has quite a bit more power on tap to drive headphones. I owned one with a Noble X and MD Plus and thought the sound was pretty good for the low cost. A tad to the warmish side, no treble fuckery.

    The Sony has much better battery life though.
     
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    I remember seeing a fix for this problem already, but can't seem to find it. My account won't stay logged in and I have to re-log in each time. There was somethings about clearing web browser cache or something. Browser is chrome w/ no extensions.
     
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