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    alot of people say that # the dt990 pro are good for dubstep, drum and bass,,, trance, psy trance, , future bass, trance, house, deep house and etc.
     
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    I recommend that you take your time, consolidate your thoughts, and put them into a single post if you can. Several posts in rapid succession won’t get you better answers, but it will annoy people.
     
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    look i want to buy the dt990 pro 250 ohms or the dt990 premium 250 ohms ....

    my buget is 350 euros max.

    I mainly listen to EDM (dubstep, drum and bass, future bass, trance, house, deep house and etc.).

    what is your opinion and your thoughts for the dt990 pro?? for EDM (dubstep, drum and bass, future bass, trance, house, deep house and etc.)??

    for dac and amplier i am using the soundblaster ae-5./.


    some people say that The Pros have slightly more bass and less treble, but the frequency response curve is already plenty V-shaped on the Premiums.

    also some people say that the premium offer plenty of oomf and crisper highs, resulting in a fun and open sound. The Pros are a bit less roomy and can sound a tad muddled on less well-mixed tracks.

    do y believe that the premium have more plenty of oomf and crisper highs and biger soundstage from pros/??

    the premium is more v-shaped from pros/??

    which is better Beyerdynamic DT-990s 250ohm pro or Beyerdynamic DT-990s 250ohm premium edition? for EDM (dubstep, drum and bass, future bass, trance, house, deep house and etc??


    I mainly listen to EDM (dubstep, drum and bass, future bass, trance, house, deep house and etc.).


    i want to buy the dt990 pro or premium,. because are very good in all these genres..#


    i have heard in one my friend the dt990 premuinm..

    but i wanted to buy the pro .. but i dont know if the premium are better from pro..

    what is your opinion for the dt990 pro ?? do you believe that are very good in dubstep, drum and bass, future bass, trance, house, deep house and etc.)??


    when i went to my friend i heard the premium in all these genres and i liked the sound.. ..

    but i have heard that the pro have more bass from premium../
     
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    i dont understand why noone is helping ,me

    some people here dislikes the posts.. which i did

    i came to your forum for to help me

    can you help me please in all these questions which i have please??
     
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    Don't take it so hard. The answer is to pick one and see. You'll know what you like when you hear it. Learning your preferences takes time.
     
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    7 posts asking the same question over and over.
     
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    OK, before I just completely write you off as a lost cause...
    1. This is a relatively small forum, and people have lives. Answers won't always come immediately, if they come at all.
    2. You came in without reading the rules or understanding the place, hence the dislikes.
    3. When given helpful pointers to how this place works, you've clearly not made the effort to read and understand them.
    4. When cautioned to be thoughtful and post less, you did the opposite.
    5. No one owes you anything.
    Now you state you're asking about the DT990 for EDM, including dubstep, house, etc. I can't help you there because I don't listen to that kind of music. But I own a pair of DT990 Premiums and would not recommend them to someone else, period, even though I listen to them quite a bit at times. I imagine there are differences between the DT990 variants, both by line and by impedance, but I highly doubt those differences are night and day. But since we prefer different kinds of music my recommendations may not mean much, and the thoughts of someone more familiar with EDM would be valuable.

    They may also have advice on other headphones in your price range that are a good fit for EDM.

    Now kindly take the hint and stop posting on this topic for now.
     
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    Dude, this is not an on demand help forum. Be patient, use the effing search function and read, read, read.

    And it just could be you stumbled into a forum that does not have a lot of Beyer fans especially for the 990s. As @wadec22 stated, many of their models are a bit ice picky in the treble and regardless of genre, offensive to many.

    And unlike some forums, opinions or ANSWERS here are usually given only if the person has some experience with the cans in question. I have heard the 990s, not sure which version and owned the 770s and 880 600 Ohms. the only can I would use with dub, edm, bass and drum from beyer would be the 770s. Not perfect but have the fun in the bass.
     
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    i will wait to hear more opinions from others for the dt990 pro and premium 250 ohms in your forum and thanks for help me// your forum is the best
     
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    and me read in the google that the dt990 pro and premium 250 ohms are the same in everything

    but some people claim that the premium dt990 premuim 250 ohms are better in soundstage,, treble, better frequency response from thr dt990 pro which are more flat.. and have more bass

    i have consufed with all these things..
     
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    Noob questions (Not sure this is the right thread to ask this).

    Let's assume a simple digital system

    Source(Player; converts files to bits) -> Dac -> Amp -> Headphone

    In my experience, the best thing that can happen to any system is a good recording. If you are listening to a very good recording you will listen to the best your system can do.

    Now let's fix the headphone. Let's say one really likes the tonality of the headphone and are happy with it.

    This leaves us with three variables
    1. Source
    2. DAC
    3. Amp

    The question is what do these components contribute to the audio signature, More concretely if one were to
    1. Want warmer/analytical/etc. presentation which component would contribute the most?
    2. Want a more detailed presentation, which component would matter the most?

    The context of these questions is - if we want to upgrade our system and are aware of what is the exact change you want, how do you isolate the most appropriate component?
     
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    1=2=3
     
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    in my own experience there is no correlation between the intensity of coloration a component contributes and where it sits in the path. even a capacitor can have a large perceived effect on tonal balance. further, as the clarity of the path increases, the color of individual components are more easily perceived

    there is a catch 22. all audio equipment can only be evaluated in the presence of other audio equipment. in general, we can try to argue that what is lost at the source cannot be recovered further down the path. at the same time, we cannot fully evaluate the potential of the source without better transducers, etc. only with experience from listening to a lot of systems and a lot of components can you begin to hone in or isolate on what the weakest link is.
     
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    I've owned or heard them both years ago. The differences are minimal and not worth worrying over. It's more likely people claimed difference because they heard different age cans which may have had slightly different internal damping or the pads were in different condition. Let your choice be decided by whichever one is cheaper, or aesthetics. For fun, also get yourself some alternative pads. The Beyers are also very easy to open up, so you can mess around with the damping inside the cups. Both the pads and damping will have significantly greater effect on the sound than the pro vs premium. If you have a decent amp and can find the 600 ohm version of the premium, I'd go with that.
     
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    you had the dt990 250 ohms pro and dt990 premium 250 ohms??


    you said . that Both the pads and damping will have significantly greater effect on the sound than the pro vs premium.

    you mean that in the pro the effects of the sound will be better againt premium??
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    As a rule of thumb, the greatest changes in sound are in this order:
    1. Speaker / headphone
    2. Amp
    3. D to A
    4. Data source
    Rules can be broken, but that can be a long discussion.

    In terms of improvement on X or Y, it's matter of addressing the weakest link. How does one know what component is the weakest link?

    Experimentation, experience, and intuition.

    Note that switching gear to improve one aspect may worsen one or several other aspects of sound. Oftentimes we are initially elated at the one aspect which is improved, not noticing the things that got worse. This is called new toy syndrome, essentially we are doing a side-grade.

    It is very difficult to escape the vicious cycle of endless side-grades.
     
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    Sorry for the late post, but I do enjoy the WF-1000XM3 even with its limitations. Yeah it doesn't do LDAC, but it has a good enough warm pop turning sound signature that I don't think LDAC would benefit here.
     
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    So are we. The answer is that we do not know. No one at SBAF seems to know. If anyone here had both Premium and Pro at same time, maybe they can chime in or send them to me for measurements and analysis. At this time, we simply do not know. Continued asking will not get you a better answer, only more speculation and conjecture, and more confusion on your part. Life is uncertain and that causes discomfort. Rest in that.
     
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