The Last Jedi Thread (with Spoilers)

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  1. BillOhio

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    Me too. Rey is OP yet again. Seeing Lando and Chewie piloting the Falcon ought to be the next best thing to seeing Han and Chewie but Lando has been rendered ridiculous in my eyes since Opie put him in bed with a robot. There Are some gorgeous shots in there but as I know that those shots will only exist within a three story arc that made no sense... yeah, I don't care about this movie
     
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    It's hard for me to fathom any enthusiasm for this franchise now. The trailers for the last two movies were awesome too.
     
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    So help me if this movie ends with a dying Rey giving birth to Kylo's twin babies...
     
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    BTW, 'LOL' at the 2 hour trailer reactions and breakdowns to a trailer that was released 3 hours ago...
     
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    the new trailer gave me a familiar thrill, tempered by a lukewarm first movie and a nearly abysmal second. That being said, I'll still see it.
     
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    I will say that it looks like Abrams seems to be trying to do as much as possible to steer this thing back on to track after the pile that he was left with after TLJ, connecting this movie to the OT and pointing the franchise back towards something resembling an actual Star Wars movie. I'm still past supporting this current state of the franchise though, and will be abstaining. I'd love if absolutely nobody went and saw this movie... if the theaters simply sat empty. I may picket the theater.

    Also, to their credit, I'm hearing that there won't be a new Star Wars movie for the next 3 or 4 years, which is a good thing. MAYBE somebody wants to take a minute and try to get it right moving forward.


    Damnit.
     
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    You can thank Bob Iger for the hiatus of Star wars movies after episode IX. I think he knows Kathleen Kennedy has her head up either her vagina or ass.
     
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    If you ask me the best thing to do would probably be to reboot the entire franchise from the ground up, wrap up this mess they have going now and then let the franchise rest for 5-10 years.

    So you spend the next 5-10 years rewriting some dubious parts of the scripts for 1-6, make some rough casting plans, location plans, director plans, shooting plans etc. Then you hit the ground running Lord of The Rings style. Remake everything in a coherent style, maybe blend in some more modern grittier cues from Game of Thrones etc.

    Either that or star a whole new Saga with completely new characters and character arcs, but you're going to have to find some top notch writers for that.

    In any case JJ, Lucas and Kennedy must be kept away at all costs.
     
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    Chotto Matte! This thing is called "The Rise of Skywalker"?

    Meh. Kylo and Rey proly are going to find out that Palpy is still somehow "alive" or whatever. Kylo & Rey are going go join forces and maybe even pork, and they are going to finally kick the sith-lord's wrinckly ass (with the help of Vader/Luke/Joda/Obi-Wan-Kennoby/Kwai-Chang-Caine/...) and be one with the force. Maybe have many Skywalkers.

    But the deal is, isn't Kylo a Solo and Rey a who-knows-what? Where is the Skywalker factory to make good to the name of the movie?

    EDIT: ... Wait. Are they going to pull out that Palpy made Vader by having a crazy night with the force, and did the exact same thing with Rey. And so she is somewhat a Skywalker because both Vader and Rey have the force as a molested parent (+ Palpy) in common? Still, where do we get another male Skywalker to make good on the name? Even if Rey is a Skywalker due to force molestation, she is a she? Or is she really a he? WTF? I'm so confused.
     
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    Unless he takes his mother's name. Maybe Han and Leia had joint custody or alternating weekends and holidays or something...

    Edit: Then again, what was the last name on Leia's drivers license, come to think of it.
     
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    Maybe. I mean Kylo wants to make Vader great again. So maybe he'll take on his name if he goes from the dark side to the rainbow side. Cuz his Solo daddy was not around and he's mad and he no-want his name, or who knows?

    Reading on the nerd sites, it seems Rey was sold by whom she thinks was her family to Jakku (thought even that is murky). I get the feeling JJ is going to give this a craptastic mediocrorian explanation and carry on.

    Maybe the Rise of Skywalker means Anakin/Vader and kids will come together and help, cuz Palpy is still ghost pulling the strings behind it all.

    EDIT: I mean, we already know Yoda is "death" and he can still kill trees with lighting.
     
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    Wait, what?
     
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    In TFA it's established that Luke Skywalker is a myth. No one believes he actually existed (which makes little sense considering he had a whole Jedi temple with students and everything). The title could be referring to the Skywalker "legend" as it were.

    Or it'll be some hacky JJ nonsensical plot gymnastics.
     
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    Yeah. The "Skywalker is a myth" thing was a midichlorian level screw up.
     
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    Anybody else irked by how small the deathstar looks in that trailer? Yet alone the fact that it's that well intact?
     
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    JJ physics.

    Death star 1 seemed to basically incinerate when it blew up. So I don't know how it could be that. Death star 2 was bigger and seemed slightly more intact when it exploded, so I'm guessing thats Death star 2 crashed on the Endor moon. Which means... Ewoks!?!
     
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    Death Star 1 was orbiting a molten hot star when it blew up, so I don't see it being that. The remnants of Death Star 2 in some random body of water on Endor seems much more plausible, but it as well also blew up in spectacular fashion at the ending of Return of the Jedi.

    It's also so extraordinary huge, that when the already absurdly massive super star destroyer crashed into it, the surface of the deathstar was so huge in relation it was almost a flat surface by comparison in the same shot that fully encompassed the super star destroyer.


    Sure you could make the argument that the shot of the wrecked death star is just way far out in the distance on the horizon of the body of water in the trailer, but if that were the case I would think there'd be considerably more atmospheric haze distancing it from Rey and company in the foreground.

    So instead of looking like this:
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    It should look like this:
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    I know it's something so small to nitpick from the trailer, but I've always been fascinated about the scale of the ships in star wars as they compare to each other, that I wouldn't want to see something as mighty as a deathstar get neutered by Abrams and Disney. Hopefully the movie does it justice. Here's hoping.

    Also for Kylo Ren to have gotten Vader's melted mask, he might have already tripped to Endor to loot his grave. He's also a temperamental preteen, so he could have killed all the ewoks on his visit there. Or maybe he just sent a friend down there to retrieve it for him.
     
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    You point about the size of ships reminds me of a real "wow" moment I had as 11 year old in the theatre when Darth Vader's "Dreadnought Executor" appeared on screen and dwarfed the other Star Destroyers. Your second point about Kylo Ren being a temperamental preteen reminds me when Star Wars truly lost its grip on me, which was the third prequel when a bratty teenager that really just needs a spanking turns into the Dark Lord. It was so unconvincing and incoherent Star Wars itself was broken, and was no longer a foundational "myth" of my imagination like it was before...
     
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    You forgot about his ghey junior high school friends.
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