Verum 0.5 - planars with single sided magnetic system.

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  1. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

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    Good news. Sure phone isn’t a good source for them, they’re less efficient then Verum 1. Hope you’ll find a solution how to plug them in main system. They have same 2,5 mm connectors as Hifiman or Oppo.
    I think that a week with them is enough to make a conclusion about this product.
     
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    @Garuspik, this looks like such an interesting development! Wish you the best of luck! Hopefully this will hit the market and I'll be able to give it an audition.
     
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    am i still on the list to get them? i dont see my user id in the list.
     
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    I've spent a couple days now with the Verum 0.5 prototype. I've taken it around with me everywhere and plugged it into everything I could - my phone, my laptop, all the amps at work, audio interfaces, my field mixer... a wide assortment of things. Verum 0.5, while sensitive enough to drive from nearly anything, does scale a fair bit with more power, as is the case with most planars.

    I'll break down my thoughts into a couple categories, but I'll keep it pretty short and sweet until we get some measurements from @purr1n and @Hands .

    Finish - Not sure if the current finish is how the final product will look, but the headphone bears resemblance to BB-8 from the newer Star Wars films. I think it's a little goofy but honestly I'm not one to care about how my gear looks, as long as it sounds good.

    Fit - The headband assembly seems to clamp quite a bit regardless of where it is set. I've never been uncomfortable using headphones so this doesn't really irritate me, but it is perpetually noticeable. The headphone is quite lightweight.

    Tone - I hear Verum 0.5 as slightly dark, with a bit of a dip or downslope starting somewhere around 2-3k, and a little edge somewhere around 7-9k (these are nitpicks). Fairly balanced with no glaring flaws - easily listenable without fatigue at fairly high volume. Bottomless planar bass as expected. Not much top octave presence. No metallic or plasticy timbre. Excited to see some measurements VS Verum 1 (which I didn't get a chance to hear).

    Dynamics - It's easy to tell the active surface area of @Garuspik 's drivers is quite large and has a good amount of mass behind it. No obsession with thinnest-possible diaphragms here. Verum 0.5 hits with a good bit of force, and the dynamic presentation drives from the low end through the lower mids. Microdynamic contrast is more clearly defined on the V0.5 than HE-4xx and HE-400, pretty close to my A-grade 2010 LCD-2, but no match against the HE-5, HE-5LE, and HE-6.

    If I were to describe the dynamic response as an ADSR envelope, I'd say attack is a bit soft relative to my reference (HE-6, though not a fair comparison), but with a more extended decay and sustain, giving V0.5 a bit of bloom. Release is similarly long across most planars relative to dynamics. The presentation is somehow slightly loose but without losing punch. Side-chain compression tends to have a bit more pump to it on the V0.5 because of this, which is quite enjoyable with bass-driven music.

    Staging - Better staging across every dimension than HE-400 variant headphones and anything LCD. Very wide and deeper than expected, sounds outside of the head.

    Imaging - V0.5 image isn't razor-sharp but placement is solidly defined, with a bit of feathering around the edges. A little sense of planar ambiguity but still better than most.

    Detail / Resolve - V0.5 feels a little bit hazy to my ears in terms of low-level detail retrieval, but the strengths of the headphone give me an enjoyable enough experience not to notice or care. This is a more listenable headphone than many more evidently "detailed" headphones.

    I'll share more over time (including pictures eventually) - this has been a bit of a stream of consciousness. Looking forward to measurements. I would have no issue recommending this headphone especially if the price remains low. Thanks @Garuspik !
     
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  5. Garuspik

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    Thanks for your opinion, it is very similar with my own thoughts. One note about clamping force - it’s adjustable, you can unscrew top nut with V logo and experiment. Also, headband is made from hardened spring steel and future owner can bend it a bit. But I ask all participants not to do it cause I need opinions about stock clamping force.
     
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    Any activity here? I haven't heard anything in a while...

    Has it moved on? More impressions please!
     
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    It's a Verum 1.0 lite. 80-85% of it. I will need to check my notes. I've been slammed, but I think I did a quick measurement.

    Bump and remind me if I forget to post.
     
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    No surprise here ;) 80-85% of sound and ~70% of weight. Better gramm-per-sound ratio :D
    From my point of view 0.5 has some benefits (and sure drawbacks) in comparison with 1, but I don't like to talk about the sound of my products, so I'll wait for different opnions with big interest.
     
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    Verum 1.0 vs 0.5 Frequency Response. This is on the EARS with SBAF compensation.

    YELLOW = Verum 1.0
    VIOLET = Verum 0.5
    Verum 1.0 vs 0.5 Frequency Response.png

    Subjectively as Evan's observations might have implied, the 0.5 doesn't have as much air as the 1.0, though both headphones can be said to be slightly dark tilted. The 0.5 compared to 1.0 is less resolving of microdetails and microdynamics, but timbre is spot on. Dynamics and attack are a bit softer than the 1.0.
     
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    is this an effect of membrane tension ?
     
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    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

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    It’s an effect of one sided magnetic system versus two sided magnetic system. Other than that there is no major differences between those headphones.
     
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    Is this the same membrane that's in the Verum One and have you tried a thinner membrane?
     
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    Absolutely the same. Those headphones are completely identical except second row of magnets. I hope soon we'll hear another opinion on 0.5 from next tour participant.
     
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    Looking forward to hearing them sometime soon.. dB
     

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