Verum Audio - Exciting high performance DIY planar

Discussion in 'Headphone Measurements' started by cskippy, May 24, 2018.

  1. ChaChaRealSmooth

    ChaChaRealSmooth SBAF Gearmaster

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    I think as long as you're not in a cubicle-style office, and as long as you're not a loud listener, this can work. Had my friend listen to these and the sounds coming out are quite heavily truncated.
     
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    Continued Impressions*

    A friend of mine saw the Verum 1 today after we had dinner. His words, verbatim, "those just look expensive." A great compliment for a headphone if I do say so myself.

    It might be that the new toy syndrome hasn't worn off yet, but the Verum 1 continues to impress me. In a nutshell, it's sonically very competent and doesn't have ghastly ergonomics.

    I commented earlier that the timbre of the Verum 1 makes it such a nice listen, and combined with its tonality I think that's very true. Even with the perforated pads (more on this later) it doesn't become harsh or grating in the treble, although it can exhibit just a bit of sibilance. Not much, and definitely not nearly enough to bother me (although I noticed that I seem to be more tolerant of treble than I thought; very possible that I'm more treble-tolerant than the norm here). It's definitely is somewhat intense and forward, but it doesn't sacrifice nuance and holds enough back in order to not be fatiguing. Personally, I become fatigued more from having the Verum 1 physically on my head versus its sound; the exact opposite of the LCD-3.

    Staging seems to be not dissimilar to an Audeze; not that large, focused, somewhat forward, and can be kind of "intense." I'm not sure about the LCD-2 or 2C, but the stage seems smaller on the Verum 1 versus the LCD-3, as well as imaging [maybe] being slightly worse. In comparison to a HD 650, the stage seems around the same size, but the Verum 1 is better at imaging. For what it's worth, imaging is definitely good enough for games.

    The pads offer quite interesting presentations. In comparison to each other, the solid pads are more focused, forward, and intimate, while being slightly warm. The perforated pads are more neutral and sound more open. Personally, I prefer the perforated pads for both sonics and ergonomics. The perforated pads are thinner overall than the solid pads, and they reduce a bit of clamp for me. Also, they help keep my ears cool.

    This one is definitely a keeper. I'd recommend the Verum 1 to anyone who wants to know how a planar should sound.
     
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    This is promising. I am currently using the Emu-Teaks so if they are about the same it should be fine.
    Probably also more comfortable than my Oppo PM3's.
     
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    Do you care about how you look in front of people? That steel headband isn't gonna win you any praise.
     
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    Full disclosure: I have not won any praise without that steel headband either.:)
     
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    you do understand that Verum1 is an "open" headphone, don't you?
     
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    I do.
     
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    Just a quick note: if you plan on using the perforated pads they do seem to leak out more sound.

    Minor update: further direct pad comparisons revealed to me that yes, I really do like the perforated pads better. However, I could see the argument that out of different chains different pads would fit better.
     
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    I received my LCD-3 back, and have been comparing them to the Verum 1.

    Some thoughts in no particular order:
    • The LCD-3 sounds much more "intense" and "focused." Not sure how to describe this; the experience is just more visceral. In contrast, the Verum 1 sounds much more open (partly due to use of perforated pads), although it's worth noting that I didn't feel that either headphone sounded congested in busy passages.
    • Despite the greater openness of the Verum 1, I felt the LCD-3 staged better.
    • The Verum 1 sounds less planar-y. I'm really not sure if that makes sense, but there's something almost fundamentally different in the timbres of the two headphones. It's almost like the difference between the X-Sabre Pro's modern and square sound versus the Schiit multibit DACs, except in this case it's headphones. The LCD-3 sounds more "modern" and "clean," whereas the Verum 1 has better tone density.
    • Probably due to the perforated pads, but I tend to put the pot up higher on the Verum 1.
    • The LCD-3 sounds like the more technically accomplished of the two. It also sounds a bit brighter, perhaps due to its small 8k peak?
    • It's worth noting the Verum 1 with the regular solid pads take on a bit of the intense sound, but not much. Honestly, I feel the perforated pads are just better on this headphone.
    Not sure if I'll keep both. I like both, but the question is whether or not I can justify having both. The one with less head time is probably going to go.
     
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    I need a help with context. Which perforated pads are you guys using with the Verums?
     
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    Pads are technically still in testing but they're new angled perforated pads that'll go for $25, Garuspik talked about them somewhere in this thread.
     
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    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

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    It's funny thing with sensitivity. I've only today found out that most of headphone manufacturers measure sensitivity as db\V not as db\mW. If I measure in such way then Verum 1 is 117 db\V.
    Also here is another Verum 1 measurements report:
    https://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/verum-audio-verum-1.php

    It's a wonderful russian site (with english version) where you can compare measurements on same stand of hundreds of headphones.
     
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    This, diy-audio-heaven and the golden-ear something korean site all have really good databases for measurements.
     
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    Don't know this one, can you elaborate? :)
     
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    http://en.goldenears.net Haven't used it in a while but they have more of the Asian brands than other sites so stuff like vsonic, final audio, etc...
     
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    I always take specs published by manufacturers with a grain of salt. When it goes to impedance for instance, dynamic headphones usually have a large peak in the bass region which might be far higher than the impedance published by the manufacturer.
    How's it going with Verum 2 by the way? When do you think it will go to kickstarter?
    Cheers
     
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    United Nations setup sounds better than it's supposed to, raspberry pi/502dac, Gungnir Multibit, LNBM or phontiror e, and Verum, back in action after gracious driver replacement. Not congested at all, everything sounds sensible.

    Oh, I Aliexpressed some pads for cheap, currently using what looks like long haired Tibetan yak velour which got rid of all sibilance.

    Balanced Dyson cable. Everything started of sibiliant and unbalanced. The yak pads seem to have solved any issues.!?

    These amps don't need any of the impedance adapters I purchased jic.

    Love the clarity, depth and tone.
     
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    Her's a Aliexpress link, be sure to do the close up, Yak Pads

    Captured in the wild

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