Yggdrasil Refined - New Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 (Yaggy) Sound Impressions

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by David De Lucena, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. peter jasz

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    No sure what you meant by that, but may I suggest a premium AC power re-gen, to power your digital.

    pj
     
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    Already tried this with an avionics grade power system running at the superior 400Hz AC. Didn't make the Yggy (1) better than my vinyl rig, or even better than some mods on the output stage circuit.

    FWIW, Yaggy (2) does get closer to vinyl. Close enough that I came back to digital. Still not there yet.
     
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    That is good to know. I have a great deal of music that I love that is only on digital. For example most new classical music recordings only come out on digital. Deutsche Grammophon is one of the recent few exceptions with new vinyl releases. My vinyl rig on comparable recordings almost always sounds better than my Bimby. In fact getting the vinyl rig last summer is the key reason why I recently ordered the Yggdrasil. Need to close the gap. I am really hoping the Yggdrasil does so. These Hagen lute sonatas are a great example of music that I just love that I can find no vinyl for. Bernhard Hagen was the last great lute composer:

    https://www.amazon.com/Bernhard-Joa...0309&sr=1-2-fkmr0&keywords=hagen+lute+trio+CD

    I would also add that getting the Cambridge CXC dedicated optical transport was also a significant improvement to my digital rig.
     
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    Did you try powering the Yaggy with a Crown amp fed by a 60 Hz signal from the Gumby?
     
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    Being 100% off the grid has produced the best results. Yggy has more fluidity in the notes when watermill powered, however windmill power produces a better sense of space and airiness. Both are better than the grid and any AC regenerator, just depends on what you are looking for.
     
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    For the waterwheel power, the purity and temperature of the water is a significant factor. I've found that high-altitude springs, filtered through a few thousand feet of mountain rock elevated during the Laramide oregeny, gives the purest tone.

    The trick with windmill power is, of course, that you have to pay attention to the directionality of the wind.
     
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    Water can be noisy though. I would install a canal with constant flow rate if I were to go that route.
     
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    I use Fedex for anything important. Drop it off directly at their main shipping depot (probably somewhere near YWG) for least hassle and competent employees. They will have you fill out the various forms. Fill out the customs form as audio accessory, warranty return. Total came to $135 with 2K CDN insurance being about $50 of the total.
     
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    Thanks Chris F. The Fedex depot is easy to get to for me. I also have an account with them, so maybe that will save me a couple bucks as well.
     
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    Hello everyone! I'm interested in the yggy analog 2 version-may I know if it's more forgiving on bad recordings than the analog 1?
    Thanks,
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    Depends on what you mean by a bad recording I suppose. I was listening to a bad recording last night on mine (Throwing Muses Live to Tape, a 1996 Live-in-Studio Promo CD) and it still sounded bad. Not grating, not painful but just bad. Only lasted about 5 minutes with that one before switching to something more pleasing.

    Any particular example you are thinking of?
     
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    In my experience the phrase "forgiving of bad recordings" is usually applied to DACs or amps that are overly warm/syrupy, very laid-back and/or unresolving (or some combination of these elements).

    Yggdrasil, in any incarnation, is none of these things.
     
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    Really bad recordings can be unbearable on a good playback chain.
    However, a good playback chain can also let you hear more detail.
    So if it is a bad recording because the treble is horribly piercing and uncomfortable, it will still be horrible on a great DAC.
    If it is a bad recording because it has tape noise, too much reverb, or was recorded on cheap equipment, a great DAC may let you hear more of what is there and appreciate it.
     
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    If I find Mimby to be forgiving of bad recordings, how does it fit to your description? Very laid-back, unresolving, or both?

    Apologies in advance for small offtopic... just curious about your view on this.
     
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    I never found any of Schiit's multibit DACs to be forgiving of "bad" recordings. Nor should they be as that would mean they are hiding and/or adding to the recording.

    What I did find with Yggdrasil A1 especially, is that it could take a challenging recording and bring it to life. The best example I have is the iTunes or Red Book releases of "In the Year 2525" by Zager and Evans. With most DACs, this track sounds like I am playing it on a late 60's transistor radio. With Yggdrasil, it actually sounds like I am listening to a studio recording. Not a real high quality studio recording but much better than I heard with any other DAC. The DirectStream DAC I use now does the same thing.

    So this "forgiving of bad recordings" is or should be a myth for a quality DAC.
     
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    Thanks to everyone for the replies! It's an interesting matter and probably I don't have enough experience to comment properly on it...anyway I think that some audio devices inject a certain euphony in what we listen to...which can be a good thing with bad recordings (for ex poorly mastered ones with low dynamic range, or weak bass, fatiguing treble...) but at the same time distort good recordings. Anyway, for my next dac, I want something neutral in this aspect (neither too coloured neither too analytical) and the yggy seems a good match :)
     
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    Garbage in >> Garbage out.
     
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    It doesn't, since it's not my finding - it's yours.

    But ... "forgiving of bad recordings" in comparison to what? Specifically, what other DAC(s) are you comparing it, with the rest of the chain unchanged, to say that it's Modi MB that is "forgiving of bad recordings"?

    Looking at the chain in your signature, I'd be more likely to look towards the combination of Valhalla 2 -> LCD2C(V) as an area where resolution was potentially a question or for the source of anything sounding "laid back".
     

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