ZMF Auteur - An open back ZMF

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  1. HitmanFluffy

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    Are people unironically saying ZMF has good build quality?
     
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    Yah, because ZMF does. There's only a handful of times I've heard of any issues (which include one gentleman who bought Bstock headphones and complained about the cups not matching a scratch.)
     
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    Yea, build quality is really good in my experience. They feel really solid in hand.
     
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    That’s right, I remember that.

    Some have mentioned issues with the sliders, but the new style seems like a good solution.

    Honestly, I’d say people are just nit-picking, at least in some situations.

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  5. James Whiting

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    It would appear that my upgrade headphone path from HD 650M would include the Auteur and some version of LFF's Code X/SEX! The Abyss 1266 is drool worthy but no where in the realm of even remotely realistic. Wenge, Bubinga, Cocobola, Madagascar Ebony, or perhaps even Purpleheart are all very appealing. Some Annodized Color options would also be nice. Not a fan of brass with any of those woods. Anyone care to comment substantially regarding Auteur vs Code X/SEX comparison? That would be much appreciated.

    Happy Listening
     
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    @James Whiting If HD650 is your current reference, Auteur is the more logical upgrade. It has the dynamic bass response with better decay and weight compared to Code Sex or other planars. There is a greater perceived quantity of bass and sub bass on the Auteur compared to the Code Sex as it hasa more downward sloping response. The midrange is superior on the Auteur but the treble is less refined and smooth compared to Code Sex. Treble is the best on the Code Sex but the Auteur with Eikon pads is still good. I find the Auteur pads to have a more neutral sound but the treble is more accentuated at 6kHz. I have basically adjusted my whole system around the Auteur with Eikon pads, using brighter cables and brighter tubes to balance the darker Eikon pads.

    Sound stage is good on both headphones but the Auteur does a better job of bringing panned hard left and right sounds more in front of you, it's a little less in your head.

    Auteur is the most open sounding ZMF headphone but compared to the VERY open HE-6/Code Sex, it still sounds closed, kind of like the HD650. I think the Auteur would also benefit from a silver cable. I'll have one when Zach sends me my Blackwood Auteur.

    My full review will be posted in a few days.
     
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    Here is a comparison between Auteur with Eikon pads in Red, Auteur with Auteur pads in Green, and Code Sex in Yellow.[​IMG]
     
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    I appreciate the info and advice. I have modified the daylights out of the 650 following all the SBAF suggestions and adding a few of my own. I even made my own grilles which sound very close to no grilles but offer protection and subtlety flesh out the lower midrange in a way open back does not. I also had a custom OCC litz cable built for it. It sounds much better than stock but I think improvements are at an end. Curious to see what jcat femto usb card will do for the system. Anyway over next couple of months hope to tuck enough away and see what woods Zach is offering.

    Happy listening
     
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    Looking forward to @gbeast's comparison as well. These two, along with a used HE1000 would be my top potential choices for can in the $1000-$1500 range. Not counting 007 (estat is tricky), hd800 (not my thing) and the Clear (I'm not a fan of the Elear).
     
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    Just got these in. If you are looking for something that plays things straight up and strives for smooth or neutral, I would tend toward the Senn 6** classics or HE-5/6 variants. The issue of course is that the HE-5/6 variants really do need speaker amps to get that final 20-30% of grip and slam. Auteur should work with existing HD6** chains, provided OTL amps with sky high output Z of 40+ ohms are not used.

    First impressions are that Auteur, despite being semi-open, have a good dose of that cup resonance play, possibly even more than Atticus, definitely more than Eikon, HP-3, and Song Z1R. Subjectivity speaking, the Auteur isn't far off neutral. The high end response is reminiscent of the Utopia, but transients, clarity, and resolution do not quite match the Be driver. The low end reminds me of the Elear, but without the wall-o-warmth - the bass response is toned down from the Eikon after all. The Auteur, like the Atticus or Sony Z1R is an interpretation of the recording which maintains a semblance of sanity and taste.

    More to come...

    This uses the biocellulose no? Not the TPE in Atticus?
     
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    Interested in what you think about differences between auteur and eikon pads, I'm guessing from your impressions above that would be with auteur pads, but I could be wrong!

    Edit: biocellulose yes
     
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    Agreed. I prefer the Eikon pads and use brighter cables and tubes to balance my system. Another interesting thing I found was that the Eikon pads had better control of the drivers and cleaner CSDs even at 800Hz which is raised up a few dB compared to the Auteur pads.
     
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    "The cups are deemed open but really look almost like semi-open headphones with the smaller than average opening on the back where the driver is seated. The ports this time around are actually not blocked providing even more air flow. Spoiler: the Auteur sounds much more open than a lot of semi-open headphones but more like 80% open back than fully open. Assumption: to keep the Auteur sounding punchy and well extended the cups seem to provide a lot more acoustic chamber effect than your average open back headphone, as tones are able to resonate against the wood. As by design, and thusly, the Auteur is able to sound different depending on the wood selected but provide enough airflow to take advantage of most of the properties akin to average open back designs."
     
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    Got rid of the ZDT Jr and driving the Auteur with top secret solid state amp is much better. The bloom of the ZDT Jr was too much of a good thing with the Auteur, which imparts it's own "wetness" to the sound.

    Fell asleep last night listening to them last night as they sounded so right. It's not a technical tour de force like the HD800 or Utopia, but instead it speaks to the right brain with it's seductive presentation. I know many of you guys are into photography. The Auteur is the Nikon 85mm 1.4g of headphones.

    I'll give the Auteur a shot on the TOTL setups later today and report back. Will take measurements too.
     
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    Which wood do you have @Marvey?
     
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    @Marvey I think I left the Auteur pads on them. Eikon pads in the box. Zach had each pad matched to a specific channel to get the best channel matching possible, but I got them mixed up. Point is to swap pads between channels if balance seems off at all.
     
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    The easiest way to tell the difference in the pads is to take them off and compare the opening size when off the headphone. The Eikon pads will look like Auteur pads when stretched out on the headphones.
     
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    The way I tell the difference is the Auteur pads have a flat pad face and stitching is at a 90 degree angle. The Eikon pads are more plush and the stitching is inside the cavity a bit.
     
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    I like it with th Auteur pads. Wouldn't change a thing and since I am really not the curious type, not going to bother with Eikon pads.
     
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