Marvey's Cable Rolling Adventures

Discussion in 'Modifications and Tweaks' started by Marvey, May 7, 2016.

  1. TheIceman93

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    The cable direction thing is a joke in my opinion. My Wireworld cables as well as some Surfcables silvers I picked up this week both have directional arrows. They sound the same to me in either direction. What is the theory behind this?
     

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    Not to be snide nor rude, but if you define it as "a joke", then for you that IS what it is.

    And if there is no difference when you reverse the cables then for you it makes a, no never mind, either way.

    But my experience has shown me that some cables are designed and made with differences from end to end.
    And experience has taught me that unless you spend at least ≈ 10 hrs listening to both configurations you may well never hear any let alone all of the differences, just because.
    Of course for some it may not take all 10hrs, but to slap the cables in and expect there to be an immediate night and day difference is unrealistic.
    We are talking subtleties of intonation, and harmonic structures that may be shifted slightly (or more) but it takes a while for us to 'learn' the 'new' acoustic presentation.
    And in some systems there may be other 'limitations' which can tend to 'cover up' these subtle differences to begin with, and so "And if there is no difference when you reverse the cables then for you it makes a, no never mind, either way".
    So you get to save your money and not have to worry about those crazy $$$$$ cables and as a bonus NOT get caught in this Audio Nervosa trap.

    And as was pointed out in a recent post, cable 'tuning' is the LAST (or near to it) type of tweak to perform if you really want to gain worthwhile results from this tweak.

    However there are a few exceptions.
    Larger gauge, better and clean connectors, shorter lengths, better metallurgy, and other 'processes' that can emphasize or enhance these subtle differences.

    Wyrs-R-Majic, and subtle Majic requires being able to hear these degrees of subtlety, which is a whole nuther topic.

    JJ
     
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    Tbh with the cheapo AudioQuest cable (Tower) I heard there was a pretty noticeable difference depending on which direction it was inserted in between the phono pre and the Freya. Defnitely noticeable in a direct comparison. I wasn't really a big fan of the cable on the whole, though. DIY seems to be able to get you pretty far on the cheap.
     
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    Often times the arrows indicate signal direction because of shield design (as in the shield is hooked together with the ground at the output of the source but not at the input for the amp). That ensures that any noise picked up by the shield never enters the destination of the cable. That being said, sometimes the arrows are just bullshit.
     
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    This is the case with the "Worlds Best Cables" in the photo I posted.
     
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