SC Carbokab 225. Something special?

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  1. Chris Cables

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    Hang on a minute. You're using a 75Ohm coax cables as a coax cable (which means your sub is doing the signal D/A processing?) or as an analogue IC?
    If as a digital coax cable then you'd just have to try it. Carbocab falls within AES/EBU spec, which means it could aslo be used as a 75Ohm coax cable.
    If as an analogue IC then yeah, I'm pretty sure you would notice a (beneficial) difference. I find using coax cable as an SE IC tends to 'choke' the FR in many bad ways. Saying that, I never tried doing that with a sub/s.
     
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    I was using it as an analogue cable -- just what I happened to have on hand that was 1.5m long!
     
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    I'm a bit curious as well for sub use, mine run at 100hz. But it's several meters and all neatly tucked away though more an effort than cost consideration. For 1.5m it's cheap enough to just try it imo and I'm curious about your findings.
     
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    Whelp, I ended up making an AES/EBU cable out of this. Compared to Belden 1800F I'm noticing a hair more resolution and sweet little planktons. It's a good match synergy-wise for my system.

    I ended up making two AES/EBU cables as I had ordered a long section of this cable and had spare Neutrik XLR connectors.

    If anyone wants one of these cables send me a PM. Throw me a few bucks for shipping and it's yours. Maybe post some impressions here if you don't mind. EDIT: Cable has been claimed.
     
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    wouldnt mind paying you for a 1m length of some RCAs if you got some left over....
     
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    all my leftovers are spoken for, sorry! Just order some up from Have Inc. 6 feet is like $15 plus shipping.
     
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    i came in late, hopefully the people who you generously are sending them out to will post here ab their comparos w other cables!

    how would this Kabob cable compare to say, Furutech FA-aS22, or this snake oil shit (if you have exp, that second one, i highly doubt, i got those for free tho)?
     
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    I'm only going on memory, but I compared Furu FA-S22 directly to Oyaide PA-02 and VH Audio V-twist. Oyaide edged out both with a bit more robust and spacious sound. Furutech sounded slightly like everything was playing cardboard cutouts of what was contained in the music. Like the "plasticky" term, but cardboardy. Belden 8402 was quite a bit more engaging, but not as detailed as the Oyaide. And the last big re-looming of subjectively better wire I did was with the DH-Labs/Connex BL-Ag. I'm kind of quietly but unabashedly a silver wire whore in that dickish, "if you think silver wire sounds etched, it's probably something wrong in your chain," kind of way, as long as the silver wire is of decent quality and the cable build/geometry isn't doing something idiotic. And to keep this relevant to Kabobs, if I'd discovered this stuff before the DH-Labs/Connex wire, I'd be pretty, pretty, pretty content with the Karbon-bon-bons (super bon bon) for 1/3-1/4 of the price. I'm in the process of re-looming my office rig with all CarboKab, if that's worth anything as consolation.
     
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    I've got enough neutrik xlr connectors and carrot-kabob for a 1m pair, plus I no longer own anything balanced so I might as well use it up. Lemme know if youse wants, I'll figure out how much parts cost and that'll be the price.
     
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    All this talk about Carb-kebab is making me hungry. Also i might still have some laying around. Send me connectors and i can sort you out EU side.
     
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    ah thank you so much for the offer, but i don’t have any bal gear : /

    thank you again for the sweet and kind offer!
     
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    I don't know how I read that you wanted xlrs when it clearly says RCA. Unfortunately I don't have any RCA connectors.
     
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    no problem at all buddy, i apprech the offer anyway it come.
     
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    Late to the party as usual. I guess that's a good strategy for staying single. Anyway, enjoying and learning from this thread.

    @yotacowboy - You have mentioned testing VH Audio wire a couple of times, but haven't mentioned how they compared to other wire. I assume the results are not favorable because they didn't stay in your system. Would you share a thought or two on the subject? I ask because I have built a few of his DIY recipes (power and SE interconnect) and was pretty happy with the result, but don't have any experience with higher end stuff.

     
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    I don't have them around anymore, but the V-twist definitely highlighted the treble region (compared to the other two cables). they weren't hashy, or etched, they just lacked upper bass, into the midbass. The best way I can describe the Furutech FA-S22 is that it made everything sound like cardboard cutouts. The Oyaide was the closest to a warm-ish neutral between the three.
     
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    Thanks. As usual, there is so much unknown about cables and why they work. I'll be getting some Carbokab and, maybe some Oyaide to try.
     
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    I don't want to start a bonfire here, but I am curious about your opinions on cables. After all, Chris has been a perfect gentleman here, so we should keep it polite. Specifically, I was putting together an order of Carbokab when I started thinking about places where it might be a useful recable. In particular, I have an active crossover with 4 short runs of single ended RCA cables, one for each channel. The cables are only a foot (30 cm) long, but are currently some no-name cable and connectors. In your experience, does the cable matter to sound quality when it's that short? Any thoughts on cables vs connectors in this kind of situation? Please no flames, just your experience and opinion.
     
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    A bit late here as well. I'm not much of a cable believer, but you guys had me intrigued, so I ordered about 20' and built a pair of 1M RCA interconnects. Just finished them and haven't tried them out yet. I bought some of the Beryllium connectors that Chris pictured (got them from Aliexpress, so they may be knockoffs? Furutech knockoffs?)

    Looking at the construction pictures, I decided to solder some of the shield in the slot after filing the plating away. I prefer soldered connections to hold down screws, but that's me.

    p.s. Tried to add some pics but they didn't show up
     
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