Schiit Freya Preamp Review (Episodic)

Discussion in 'Preamps' started by Marvey, Jan 14, 2017.

  1. e.schell

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    Both the copy that came with freya and the digital copy i downloaded say Revision A. Physical copy says front and rear, digital says right and left. Ha!
     

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    this is interesting. at the volumes schiit makes boards, am expecting this is just a manual typo and not a model revision.
     
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    I had time this morning to shoot Nick and schiits tech support an email about it he says the digital copy saying right and left is correct. Sorry to cause any unneeded confusion.
     
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    Can we get some verification on which tubes are what. I have a Freya and I originally ordered 4 TungSol NP for it, and I like them. I just bought 2 Matching Kenrad VT-231 staggered plates. I have been told that the front 2 tubes are the left channel and the back 2 are the right channel, and the right side is the Gain stage (where I want to put the new/better tubes) and the left side is the buffer.

    But that seems to conflict with the OP statement that the "1st 2" are the gain stage... (I guess it depends on what direction he is talking about)

    I just want to make sure I put them in the right place :)

    Thanks
     
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    Hi Brad,

    Welcome to SBAF. As a general principle, it's a good idea around here to look through the threads you are posting in to see if someone has asked and answered the question before you. It helps prevent everything turning into a hellish groundhog day.

    In this case, your question is asked and answered in: the five posts immediately preceding your own!
     
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    Literally answered in the post above you...
     
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    After, looking at the main board photograph on the Schiit Audio web site, that makes perfect sense. It is easy to see that the tube stages go from left to right versus front to back based on component locations.
     
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    Thanks and sorry, I did Google for the answer quite a bit and couldn't find it (beyond the one place I had found it stating the opposite). I also looked through the posts immediately after the OP and didn't see anyone bring up the contradiction. I didn't figure it would be discussed right before me :oops:...

    Glad to have it cleared up though, :)
     
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    I picked up a matching pair of Sylvania JAN CHS 6SN7W tubes. Now I have these (all matching):

    4 - Sylvania 6SN7WGTA (Brown Base, Chrome Top)
    2 - RCA CRC JAN 6SN7GT VT-231 (Smoked Glass)
    2 - Raytheon 6SN7WGT (1952)
    2 - Sylvania JAN CHS 6SN7W (Black Base, Short Bottle, Chrome Top from 1940's)

    That should give me plenty of tubes to play with in the Freya that I haven't even ordered yet....
     
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    Hey, has anyone listened through Freya, or otherwise, with the Sylvania 6SN7GT "Bad Boys" installed? The real ones with the three holes for that 3 or 4 year range (late 40's to early 50's)? Are they all some people make them out to be? What is a fair price for them?

    Thanks!!
     
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    May I suggest finding your favorite tubes of the bunch you have and just enjoy Freya and your music? I'm not trying to tell you to not spend your money but tube rolling can become an addiction just like chasing better gear, where the money might actually be better served upgrading headphones/speakers or gasp! buying music. Just my two cents.
     
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    Oh, I agree! I don't need any more tubes now. I was just curious what the "Bad Boys" were like and what was considered a reasonable price for a matched set.

    I am focusing on speaker research now.....anyone know of good places to go listen to speakers in the San Jose, CA area?
     
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    So my Freya will be delivered on Tuesday. I have been using my Mjolnir 2 as a preamp for my powered monitors (SE input only). I am curious, what kind of difference am I going to hear between the tube stage of Freya and the the Mjolnir 2?

    Also, what tubes would you recommend I start with? The stock tubes or some combination of the tubes I have listed 4 posts above?
     
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    The sound will likely be wider and sweeter/more lush. I can say that using Mjo2 as a preamp was not my favorite.

    Tung Sol quad sets seem to be a popular first choice for rolling.
     
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    Cool!

    I have these (all matching):

    4 - Sylvania 6SN7WGTA (Brown Base, Chrome Top)
    2 - RCA CRC JAN 6SN7GT VT-231 (Smoked Glass)
    2 - Raytheon 6SN7WGT (1952)
    2 - Sylvania JAN CHS 6SN7W (Black Base, Short Bottle, Chrome Top from 1940's)
     
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    Personally, I would skip the current production Tung Sol. You lose some of the impact and tactility of the stock tubes and don't gain much width or depth. You need to find a good set of NOS tubes and it seems that the gain stage produces far more significant sonic changes compared to the output tubes.

    EDIT: Those Sylvania should be good, and also the RCA. You got some good tubes there. Let us know what your favorites are.
     
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    Ok, you already told us that, and it was noise the first time...

    For what it's worth, the Freya is to my ears significantly less tubey than the Mjo2 as a preamp. If you want something to warm up your system or add obvious tube colouration, the Freya is not it. On the other hand it doesn't mess up the FR and imaging like the Mjo2 does. The Mjo2 is really not up to preamp duties. But really, if you have the Freya on the way, you can presumably figure this out for yourself pretty soon. Just a suggestion, maybe it would have been better if you waited and told us what YOU think. I have had the Freya a month or so now but haven't posted anything about it yet because I want to figure it out properly first.

    Tubes: the stock tubes are pretty poor. They sound terrible at first, and only become listenable after 25 hours or so (seems typical for Russian tubes). The Freya seems fairly insensitive to tube rolling. Think Valhalla 2 levels. Changing interconnects seems to have a bigger sonic impact. I honestly can't tell much difference between various US 6SN7s.
     
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    I've had my Freya for a little over 24 hours now. What I have I discovered? Mjolnir 2 as a preamp sucks!!
     
  19. Big D Design

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    Me thinks Freya is the best Preamp since Star Wars....
     
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    Big D Design I've got stereo junk in my trunk.

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    Why you no like Freya?
    It has such great tools to tailor sound.
     

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