SuperDupont Resonator : Summary and Interest Check

Discussion in 'Modifications and Tweaks' started by sorrodje, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. Chris1967

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    Received them today! Will install tonight. Many thanks Sorrodje!!!!! \/
     

  2. mdr30

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    Hereby ordering one pair.

    Regards
    Stefan
     
  3. PKChung

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    Hi there, I just knew about your mod from Tyll
    May I order one pair of these from you?
    Please put me on the waiting list
    Cheers
     
  4. sorrodje

    sorrodje Carla Bruni's other lover - Friend Staff Member Pyrate MZR

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    post #1 Updated with new people in the waiting list and new shipment done. 10 more pairs are ready to ship. Will open the batch #6 in next days when all batch #5 will be shipped.

    Did @Greed receive his letter ?
     
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    Hi Sorrodje,

    Could you please add me to the list for a pair? Thank you so much for the great work!
     
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    Hi Sorrodje, Fantastic work. Please add me to the List for 1 pair. Thank you!!
     
  7. Dead Can Dance

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    This is my first post to SBAF.

    I joined SBAF for three main reasons; Reading posts I really love how respectful everyone seems to be without flamers. I love how experimental people are and willing to mod headphones to make them sound better. And the main reason is to thank Sorrodje for coming up with the Superdupont Resonator.

    I recently bought a HD 800. At the used prices these are going for now i think they are incredible value. I compared the HD 800 at length to the 800s, the HE 1000, the Audeze LCD 3 and 4, two of the Stax and the Abyss. I listened through a range of different amps and apart from the peak and aggression that the HD 800 will sometimes present with some music there was so much magic on most of the music. For it to be able to compete to my ears with this other stuff i thought was amazing. There were aspects of some of the other headphones that i preferred (the bass of the Abyss, the timbre of the he 1000, the lack of grain of the Stax) but there were always enough things i prefer on the HD 800 to make me think about and want to listen to this headphone the most.

    The only mods i've tried so far were the rug liner which made the HD 800 lose some of the magic that i love about it. I then tried the Shure tip (with the white plastic pipe still in the tip) which was good but a bit too dead for me.

    Then i spent 5 hours making Sorrodjes wonderful Superdupont Resonator with the felt, business card and creatology foam and the sound is overall now pretty wonderful. The peak seems almost gone (i'd still love it to take off a little more of the 6khz brightness (if that's what i'm hearing) . And in an ideal world i'd like slightly more 1 kHz presence and slightly richer and more powerful bass (like the Fostex 900) but i'm using a modified Speedball Crack so i'm trading some resolution with this amp (in comparison to the Cypher Labs Prautes, Sennheisers own amp and even i guess the woo) but the modified Crack is the best partner so far for me with the hd 800 as they are now.

    Now comparing my 2 year old very well run in and new ear pads HD 800 to the HD 800s and with the 3 layer Superdupont Resonator I found the differences really interesting. The HD 800s was much more forgiving with on most material a more beautiful and richer midrange. But the soundstage of my HD 800 was larger. They had much more detail. The sound seemed clearer. The bass was leaner but the HD 800 had a lot more magic to me. The 800s sounded different in the bass to the rest of the range. Like it was a multiway loudspeaker and this seemed to be obscuring a lot of the sense on good recordings of being in the studio or room with the musician. Sorrodje's modified HD 800 made me feel like i was listening much closer to the master tape and it gave the impression that i could hear the reel to reel tape running over the heads and that the music was all in unison. Anyway a bad explanation but i wanted to try to explain what i was hearing.

    I have three questions for Sorrodje if i may.

    in the Sorrodje Resonator i made i used a glossy business card as the material for the paper part that is farthest from your ears. Is this in your experience the best material to use? Would a matt card or slightly thinner card give better results?

    Are there any other mods that are recommended being used with the Superdupont Resonator to improve the sound further without killing the Soundstage or clarity which i love?

    Would making the hole larger in the resonator improve the sound further or are there any other materials which show promise?

    I ask this last question because looking at the HD800s superficially (I took the dustcover off but did not peel back the gauze covering the driver and the central donut because it was a floor model and was for sale) it looks almost like the shore tip from Sorrodjes earlier resonator. It seems to have a larger diameter hole than the Shure tip with the white stick still in but it seems to have that type of sponginess and looks like it has tooling marking on it just like the shore tips i tried using.

    Sorry for the long post but i just wanted to share my impressions and thank Sorrodje for making my headphones so much more pleasurable to listen too.

    Dead Can Dance.
     
  8. zerodeefex

    zerodeefex SBAF's Imelda Marcos Staff Member Pyrate BWC

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    Nope

    @sorrodje

    DO NOT ship one to @bluesaint

    He is now banned for a month for flipping his liquid carbon, being a shit head to mods about it, and then being a shithead to members about it. This is one of his three posts on this forum, the other two are trying to sell gear.
     
  9. sorrodje

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    @Dead Can Dance : the current SD mod is the result of my experiments. My purpose was to achieve almost same measurements than the HD800S with something easy to DIY and to build in small series for people who don't want to DIY. Measurements was close enough for my tastes and I was able to produce mods that measure consistently the same then I stopped to experiment. There''s probably room for "improvements" and for other mods but for me, my ears and what I listen to the HD800S or HD800SD is perfect.

    For other mods. I see a lot of people who''re stacking mods + EQ + whatever in their HD800. It's fine for me as long as everybody take time to listen each modification experiment carefully every move. Then to go backwards then listen , etc... I feel that with so many options to tweak the HD800, we all sometimes focus too much on measurements and target curves and we maybe forget to sit back and listen.

    For example, thks to @SKiring I have the last SBAF mod at home . I didn't try it yet. Why ?

    Firstly, I'm super happy with the Current state of my HD800. I haven't one track I usually listen that needs more . I still have my HE60 and and with my SRM-T1 , the HE60 does sound brighter than my HD800SD and Even if the HE60 soundstage is really great , I still prefer HD800SD's one. so. I'm happy and i can focus on the music instead of the gear.

    Secondly, I spent the first two month of the year to review the HD800S and produce the SD Resonator mod. I now want to sit back , relax and listen to music. I'm definitely not in a mood for more mods ,review, critical listenings , measurements , sweep tones ;)

    I'll give a try to other mods later.

    btw, many thks for your positive comments . Much appreciated. For more discussion about the mod , please let's go there : http://www.superbestaudiofriends.or...00-french-mod-aka-superdupont-resonator.1147/
     
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  10. sorrodje

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    @ALL: Please keep me informed when your letter arrives. I can update my list and stop to worry about lost letters. it's better for my peace of mind :)
     
  11. sacredgates

    sacredgates Audio-Technica's high priest Contributor

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    Hi Sorrodje,
    please add me to the list for one pair.
    I am in Germany.
    Thanks so much!
     
  12. sorrodje

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  13. Dead Can Dance

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    Thanks Sorrodje for your comments. I'll post any more comments on the HD800 on the forum you highlighted.

    May i have 2 pairs of your Superdupont resonators? I'm living in Melbourne, Australia.

    The ones i made used a circle cutting tool but the outer donut i had to do by hand with scissors so not perfectly round.

    Can you please post a link that i can make a donation to?

    Thank you!

    DeadCanDance.
     
  14. sorrodje

    sorrodje Carla Bruni's other lover - Friend Staff Member Pyrate MZR

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    @Dead Can Dance : I put you on the wating list and I'll PM you when you turn will come. Then I'll give your the paypal link ;)
     
  15. Dead Can Dance

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    Thank you!!!! :)
     
  16. WilCox

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    Hi Sorrodje,

    My resonator arrived on 4/1 when I was out of town. Back today and will install later this afternoon. Looking forward to the transformation.

    Thanks again for making this happen.

    Wil
     
  17. silkiest

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    Hi @sorrodje,
    please add me to the list for one pair.
    I am in USA.

    Thanks
    -Silkiest
     
  18. zonto

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    Hi @sorrodje,

    Please add me to the end of the list when convenient. I'm in MA.

    Thanks!
     
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    Nice work. Please add me to the list for 3 pairs. I've got a couple friends who want the HD800 and I'm sure would appreciate these.
     
  20. sorrodje

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