Mr. Speakers ETHER Flow Headphone(?) Upgrade(?)

I tried the PM3. What a boring headphone, and not great isolation. I have a modded pm2, the pmx2

 

I have the Ether C's and every time I listen to them I get distracted by them as I HATE them. The mids and highs are painfully bright and the bass is thhhpt thhhpt -non existent. Now, this is just my opinion but for what I paid for them they suck. I can't say it enough, they suck. So where do i go from here? I need something with some bass. I'd also be willing to sell the pair I have. I put the larger pads from the Mad Dogs on them in a desperate attempt to scare up some bass. Suggestions?

 

You got a PM

 

Omni? Elear? Lff slant? Oppo pmX2 on a lyr 2 (i remember @Hands saying that it made the pm2 very bassy)?

 

In addition to what @Vanheim said, what about anything from Audeze LCD-2 and up?

 

I felt exactly the same as you. I "upgraded" from Omni to Ether C but I much preferred the cheaper Omni. I have the Elear now which I also like better. Ether C did mids and soundstage (for closed hp) well, at least for my setup, but I didn't like much else about it. Even with bass boost, I felt the Ether C lacked bass, haha.

 

An LCD X with the new headband (if they have now fixed the hotspot issue that was in the first batch of carbon headbands)

No can defend.

 

Fully burned in?

 

As a previous owner of the Ether C... And now an owner of the Open Flow for the last week and a half.. I can confirm that the Flow is worth the upgrade and more. It is a significant upgrade over the previous implementation ( open or closed ).

 

I'd still like to know what is inside that Dan changed to boost the bass....ill ask again, what was the booby trap in the ethers to prevent disassembly?

 

Starting to find the Ether C harsh and lacking in bass as well. Idk what it is though since my HD600s sound more harsh in things like cymbals, there is just fatigue on the Ether C... Like every transient sounds sharpened, yet the treble is very smooth... Might upgrade to Flow in a few months don't know which one yet since I love isolation.

 

I returned my Flows.
Reasons:

1- no access to rear
2- no ability to make the presentation less forward.
3- you are always in the front row of listening no matter what the song and it was always a live/ lounge type atmosphere.
4- I was expecting an accurate rendition on the soundstage, but overall it is still close and result is nervous energy.
5- I expected larger soundstage over normal Ether, instead I get more resolution.
6- it using a layer of felt, then a layer of foam to get that unreal beautiful liquid sound, and without these pieces it sounds piercing.
7- I expected more options to come.
8- I prefer Code-x tonality and accuracy over these.


What I did like:

1- smooth liquid sound
2- juicy bass turns supple and nuanced with the Jotunheim.
3- nice signature
4- excellent detailing and resolution
5- great punchy supple bass
7- excellent compliment can to have next to an HD800,
Without feeling your loosing any resolution, so similar level of liveliness..

These cans don't have the lower octaves of a HEK.
For 200 more you get the HEK V1 and mod them for more impact with the mods here.

If Dan could do personal request to less - dampen the rear and give larger soundstage,
Then I would come back.
I know he can do this
as I heard such differences with his two different prototypes on the other electrostatic models.

Oh well


Edit:
Not going to post this at the " big head" site,
As I not Gona rain on anyone's parade.
Ignorance is bliss, and I don't like to make negative waves.
So this is classified impressions for SBAF ,
Lol.
Edit*
Flow opens were used ,
Not the closed.

 

How does the soundstage, detail, and bass compare to the CodeX

 

Very similar.
Old Ether was not at Code-x level,
But Flow IS with some differences...

Both reach what I would call TOTL .

I really like the Flows looks and bass and energy and detailing,
But as I said , front row experience.

Soundstage has height and depth ,
But the Code-x is simply superior in soundstage layering, while having a spot on tonality.

The Code-x bass is good but the Flow bass (to me) is better ,
Yet some sub- bass extension goes to the Code-x.

The Flow has the more lively sound while Code-x more neutral.

Code-x soundstage not front row, but not as large as, say the LCD-X (open grills)
The LCD-X is really nice but not as neutral as the other two, yet, although it seems larger with grill mod.

All three of these should be placed in same spot.
I would call them preferences.

Truthfully, the only thing the Code-x missing is a bit larger soundstage.
The Flow soundstage, although not as distanced, has a large sound so your in bliss and not noticing until you compare.
Then you get a bit sad.
So don't compare these Flows to a Code-x lol.

The Flow , has a smoothness that is VERY alluring..
I think Dan made a new signature which deserves its name, "Flow".

Also,
To put in perspective
None of these cans are preferable to my modded HEK V1.
As you may know, I am a soundstage luver.

My HEK V1 has larger stage with decent impact (finally) and with nice satisfying sub-bass oomph,
that those others simply do not have.
Edit* Flow Open was used.
Not the closed

Wew.
That is all..

 

has anybody placed an order on the flow's i ordered them on the 8 of september and my order is processing i feel like i should just wait for a review on the HE1000 V2 ?

 

If you find that you like HEK V2 or V1 modded,
Restock fee on Flow will be around $180.
So you make your choices based on your type listening preferences.

My fee was waived because of a small defect in blue rings.
They were very good about it,
but don't expect that mistake to ever go by them again.

You must hear for yourself to make your decisions.
IMHO The Flow is a good can to have as a secondary can.
It is a great energy exciting can with good bass in open version
So depends on your music preferences.
My primary cans are HD800x(critical), and HEKV1(relax neutral).

 

I too use the an HD800 SDR for critical and a PMx2 for relaxed. I use an EtherC when I need a closed can. max, do you recommend the flow upgrade for an occasional use Ether C?

 

Hi I know you've had original Ethers and modded.

Do you have any thoughts on the originals and is it worth to upgrade? I have the originals

I've gone back and forth right now with tweaks right now I'm using the v1.1 foam with the stock pads.

Right now the timeline for upgrades seems to be tbd.