I found the velours to be a bit too shelved off above the mids, a bit too weird/uneven, and that they killed a lot of the things that the Clear does well. I guess technically they are an improvement over stock because I found the natural sound of the Clear to be a bit painful at times. Like, headache inducing. They hybrid pads aren't perfect either, but they at least allow me to enjoy the technical merits of the Clear without fatigue. I can easily imagine someone disliking their sound as well, it's all subjective. The overall balance of the stock pads is still the best. I just wish Focal had smoothed out the few trouble spots.