Geshelli JNOG V2 Impressions

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  1. Justin S

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    I just received my J2 back from Geshelli with the new board (new regulators and the heatsync on the the chip). While I can't A/B with the previous revision of the board, my preliminary impression (with monitors) is that it sounds slightly better: better separation in the imaging, even more clean in the treble region (cymbals etc), I am hearing more spacial/room cues which makes it sound deeper. I would highlight one caveat: this could just be contrast between what I have been listening to at work in the J2's absence (shitty motherboard audio). I'll let it settle for a week and revisit my review to see if I have any observations that require revision.

    [Add Jun 14] I have made some small revisions my earlier observations of the J2 to take into account the new board. The short story is that my earlier observations stand. I do think it's a bit better now - more clarity, more focus, more engaging staging. I continue to be happy with this purchase and am not missing the RME ADI-2. I added a bit of info on upressing and using and alternate filter with the J2 using HQ Player to my original post.
     
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    While it's relevant is there an easy way to confirm if my J2 is already updated? S/N? or the number of heatsinks etc?

    Been enjoying their stuff and would hate to bug them if it's a non-issue. luckily I'm only a few hours away from them in FL :)
     
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    So far I have no complaints with the SW51+ and this dac. I think I have enough hours on both to determine it’s a fine pairing. Only caveat is that I have old guy ears. Younger listeners can disagree if relevant. I don’t have any issues playing this combo with HD-650s for a couple of hours at a time.
     
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    If you bought it after mid May it will be the new version as that is when they did the update. If it has heatsink on the DAC chip its the new version, original didnt have that.

    I am still very happy with mine, it has successfully killed any kind of upgradeitis.
     
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    They would contact you if your JNOG was not the updated version - that's the kind of company they are. I sent mine in for an update. It was returned quickly and had been in my work system for months now. I have recently been putting in some long hours with it and the HD650Ms through a MAD EAR+HD with an Amperex ECC 81 BB. It's very enjoyable and not the least bit fatiguing. It's clean as a whistle and has an engaging presentation in my chain.
     
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    My only complaint has been the lack of volume control for my active speakers combined with 2.5Vrms vs the 4ish I would expect from balanced output...
    Using an XLR Switch to go between Archel2.5Pro, Erish and now a Topping A90.
    I'd like to run Erish/A90 at the same time if my GF's in my office for example and I already use Voicemeeter Potato so multiple DACs is super easy. that and i think A90 would benefit from a more typical voltage output like D90 has

    any suggestions for a DAC to pair with A90 knowing i already have a pretty transparent stack from Geshelli?

    I was hoping for something more punchy considered a bifrost 2...
     
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    If you do a bit of lurk-reading around here you can find some detailed impressions of a lot of DACs (even topping DACs - look at the front page posts) and most will have a range of DAC AMP combos. I did have the BF2 and liked it a lot - it's certainly punchy. I was a bit weirded out by it in headphones as I came from an RME ADI-2. The BF2 is GREAT in a 2CH system and I kept it there for over a year before switching things up.

    That's like saying your only complaint about the chicken soup is that it leaks out when you put it in your pocket. The J2's a pure DAC.

    A decent monitor controller is a better route to go if you're using active monitors for all kinds of reasons. I use an SPL 2Contol with the J2 and still have to put passive -12dB pads on the monitors to get to 82dB at unity gain on the 2Control - so no issues with the output voltage on the J2. I like this combo better than, for example, using the RME with the digital pre - sounds better, more flexible, more useful.
     
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    Well admittedly I was nitpicking and I do love my J2.

    IDK if a monitor controller is like a passive pre-amp but I'd imagine it's something of that nature. I know they can be a bit tricky with longer cable runs but either way for the money I just got an A90 for versatility (2 headphones and/or 2 sources)
    my PC's in my closet so my J2 is their with XLR's going to a switch at my desk with the 3 amps / monitors

    do you think I'd benefit much from the addition of BF2 with the idea being warmer/ punchy a90? otherwise i just have 3 clinical amps lol
     
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    Monitor controller is usually a bit more utilitarian than a preamp and will often have functions designed for a working environment - mono, dim etc . There are passive and active ones. The SPL is active. I've had passive ones, too, though none of them very good...I am preferring the active controller for certain. There are some good threads here about the difference.

    The bf2 is a good DAC and certainly punchy. I don't know your amps, but you can find a ton of info on the bf2 thread. This thread is really about the J2.
     
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