Life after Yggdrasil: Watering the Ash

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by Torq, Mar 1, 2017.

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  1. RobS

    RobS RobS? More like RobDiarrhea.

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    ^ yup filed a claim with my insurance. Still need to talk with my agent on Monday to see what my policy covers. There's a section for personal property but it's not clear what's covered.

    @robot zombie dude no kidding, I have googled as much as I can looking if anyone has experienced a similar situation but nothing has turned up yet. Posted this half for sympathy but also to see if anyone with electrical knowledge might be able to explain what happened.

    I don't get why USB only either. You would think with carrying that much current down a USB line it would just fry the internal wiring before it ever reaches the output connector. I just assumed USB couldn't handle that much to be considered dangerous.

    Or like you said the possible unregulated power feeding the Yggdrasil may have something to do with the USB sparking like that.

    Maybe there's an elevated ground at the AC outlet? I have an receptacle outlet tester but the problem with that is it doesn't check how much current its carrying.
     
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    This sounds like the culprit to me. I wonder if you have a bad ground and some over voltage. If the ground is bad, the electricity will search for somewhere to go, and a usb connection is one such path. I’m sorry to hear of this carnage. Hopefully your insurance helps you out.
     
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    Would be interesting to know the root cause but this looks like the most plausible cause and would also like to know how insurance company approach damage caused due to lack of earthing
     
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    Ruined HD700 ruined my ear holes

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    I have a Musical Fidelity MX-DAC and always wondered how it sounded vs the Schiit dacs which I have never owned. It comes off to me as super clean, tight, precise, neutral-ish, yet not overly bright. Very few people seem to own or even have heard of this dac but it seems to be positively reviewed by those who try it.

    Has a PCM1795 as dac chip and pretty basic internal layout with balanced and unbalanced outputs. Despite being an old chip IMO it's good sounding, in fact Denon just recently used it (in quad config) in their recent $3499 integrated amp release. Is @Torq still doing these audition comparisons?
     
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    He's stopped and pretty much gone from forums, except occasionally on headphones.com, apparently he's preparing for a multi-year sailing adventure.
     
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    I had the V90 and m1 (almost forgot about this one). Is it even close to that one?
     
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    Ruined HD700 ruined my ear holes

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    Haven't heard either of those, but MXDAC was basically the next iteration following the M1DAC - reviewers said it sounded significantly different (better) than the M1DAC tho. The v90 was a lower tier product that came out between the M1DAC and MXDAC if i recall.

    Here's a quick Amazon review I found from a guy that A/B compared all three : "The MX-DAC plays much better than the V90-DAC and the M1DAC, but doesn't quite get to the big M6DAC (it also costs 2,699 euros). "

    Not the most info but I got the same impression I read elsewhere on the net in the past, a significant upgrade from the v90/m1.
     
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    So I've been looking for a PCM63 based dac that isn't outrageously expensive and I stumbled across the Esoteric D-30. It was a model only sold in japan as far as I can tell and information about it is proving pretty difficult to find but it looks very promising.

    It uses ~ 8 ~ PCM63s and looks super overbuilt. Has anyone heard one? It's unknown enough to not be even used Yggdrasil A1 money. I live in South Korea right now so I think I might import one from Japan.
     
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    I had a chance at picking up an assemblage DAC 3.0 recently from a local HFier, but came with a no guarantee its working, been stored for last 3 years comment. 300$. Passed on it.

    so while researching DACs, the Gungnir Multibit and Yggdrasil GS are at the top of my list.. although i've never heard either of them. Used to have the original Gungnir a long time ago but don't recall it.

    I've always gravitated to R2R based DACs. And came across the denafrips.

    I know a few folks have different models from this company when i did a search...

    but didn't find a dedicated thread on them.

    Any owners care to start one? I am interested to hear your thoughts on their products and how it compares to Schitt's multibit DAC. Only interested in the full balanced with AES input versions. So that rules out the Ares from denafrips.

    Specifically interested ot know differences between the Pontus 2 and Venus 2.
     
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    jeez.. guess not! Thanks
     
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    Ruined HD700 ruined my ear holes

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    Not that I expected it to be good for music playback because I bought it for recording, but if any are curious the ROLAND STUDIO CAPTURE has very bad musicality compared to my Musical Fidelity MX-DAC; soundstage sounds flat, highs overemphasized, typical pro audio sound. I ended up bypassing the DAC in the studio capture and running digital coax to the MX-DAC for when I need to monitor something. Easier then to route all the sound through one DAC as well.

    I am sure the STUDIO CAPTURE measures well tho! :D
     
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    I does IMHO. After joining here and lurking a lot before that I had both Yggys and the Bifrost 2 at one stage in the search. The Beatles mono box definitely sounded better - to me anyway - through the new Yggdrasil with the Phonitor XE and Utopias.
     
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    dCS Bartok,

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    I don't usually start a DAC review by mentioning build quality but this thing is incredibly solid and beautifully finished. Everything oozes attention to detail.
    The DAC controls are fantastic, letting you review the board temperature, change filters, display, generate signals, all kinds of fancy audiophile stuff.

    It has a built in network streamer and you can just plug ethernet into it and stream over roon. They do say it sounds better from the dCS network bridge but I mean of course they do.

    Testing conditions: Roon over ethernet from a desktop PC/SFT-1 > dCS Bartok > XLR to EC studio> SCA-2 > XLR to ATC SCM 150 ASLT
    Bartok: tested all filters, 3,4,5 mostly with dsd upsamping OFF


    How does it sound?
    It sounds decent, it's easy to listen to but it's rather unremarkable. You could probably find some synergy between certain headphones and the headphone out that would be acceptable but again not remarkable.

    Engagement factor is low, it has this ultra polished but still slightly digital/artifical sound, which ends up making everything sound a bit smoothed over and kinda dull. It falls short compared to the recently reviewed Holo May which was technically far more impressive overall.

    The little timbral details are not there, transients are slightly dulled, stage is wide and deep and not 'round' like on the Vivaldi. Overall It's technically unimpressive, but I guess it is an all in one? They've gone for a really safe tuning which will appeal to a lot of the 'hifi' market.

    I'm not going to waste too much more of your time going into this. Don't buy this. it sounds OK, but at this price point it really needs to be something special and it simply isn't.

    As expected It did not make the top 10 DAC list.
     
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    Got a Bartok here at the moment and have found exactly the same thing.
    It's not 'bad' it's just....Dull. Really dull. And whilst the build and features are truly exceptional, the sound quality itself honestly is nothing even close to 'excellent' and I'd take a May, Wavedream, DAVE, or Terminator Plus over it without hesitation.

    And honestly....I'm pretty sure I'm even preferring the X26 pro to it....
     
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    Senorx12562 Case of the mondays

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    Jeez, you guys sure expect a lot from 18gr.
     
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    It's not exactly affordable kit, so it's fair to have expectations way up there with price. I haven't heard Bartok, but it its build quality is great, at least that's what I thought after seeing one at one of audio shows.
     
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    @GoldenOne Thanks for sharing. I had heard the Bartok at a dealer once but didn’t compare it to anything. Knew it was out of my “willing to pay” range in any event. I didn’t notice any comparisons to Yggdrasil though, despite seeing one in the rack in the video and you posting in this thread?
     

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