Massdrop x Focal Elex

Discussion in 'Headphone Measurements' started by purr1n, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. Aklegal

    Aklegal Almost "Made"

    Mar 1, 2016
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    Man, these sound alot like my modded HD650s which means I love them very much. Treble is a bit more present but not fatiguing except after really long listening sessions - I never get fatigue with the HD650. Midrange is a little more pushed back than the HD650 but is a little clearer. The HD650s midrange is closer to you but seems to have more depth. HD650s bass is a bit fuller but the Elex sounds a tad bit more articulate - this might be because there is less of it. I'm struggling here because the two sound ALOT like to me. I can switch to the TR-X00 or K7XX after listening to either the Elex or HD650 and say to myself "ok THIS sounds different".

    Again lol, these two sound so close to me that even though I got a like new Elex for $500 I feel like I overpaid. BUT, they sound different enough that I did find songs I preferred on one or the other - though not whole genres like with a TR-X00 and HD650 comparison. Like the Alabama Shakes "You Ain't Alone" leans toward harsh on the Elex but is just right on the HD650s. On well recorded/mastered material its a toss up between the two. I can't remember off the top of my head which songs I preferred with the Elex but I do remember saying wow a couple of times while listening to thicker sounding mid-90s R&B.

    All this means is that my K7XX will find a new home soon. It looks like I will have to sell them for $100 though. 3 headphones is my personal limit although the ZMF Autuers and Aeolus have piqued my interest a small bit.

    I may modify this post later. I'm at work and I have only owned the Elex for about 36 hours.

    March 10, 2020 update

    I upgraded my source from the Digigram vx222e to the Pi2AES recently. The differences between HD650 and the Elex is now much more apparent to me. The Elex is more energetic than before and it is a little more fatiguing but man it sounds phenomenal. I am now thinking about checking out a Focal Clear. The HD650 of course scaled with the improvement to the system and sounds better than ever.
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  2. creuzabar

    creuzabar Rando

    Dec 26, 2019
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    Hello gentlemen! First I would like to say that this forum is very good, I could understand several things, such as that the overall sound of hd660S is at a level below the 300 ohms models, the explanation of the experienced Purrin (forgive me if I wrote wrong) helped me understand what I actually heard. So thank you.
    But now I have two doubts and would be immensely grateful if you could help me.
    Gentlemen a Sennheiser HD650 with any of the mods reported on this site or a combination of mods can make the HD650 compete with the Focal Elex and stay in the same league in terms of micro and macro details, general resolution, soundstage and image? Because I read that some of the mods in which the cage is removed behind the driver and applies shock absorbers increases the resolution of the HD650, but I need to know if it reaches the Focal level.
    And my other doubt is related to the problem of the driver of the Focal elex presenting cutting sounds when reaching certain sound intensity, which most scares me when I think about buying a Focal Elex one day. It is very important to know from how many decibels the problem of the sounds cutting in this headphone appears. Understand my situation, I live in Brazil, Drop does not send products directly to Brazil, so I have to use a order redirection company, and so I need to know the characteristics of this product in order to be able to instruct the staff of the redirect company so they can identify the units most affected with the problem until they receive a more close unit of perfect, so then send it to my parents. I even think about buying a decibel meter to identify better.
    I thank you for the attention and apologize if I behaved inappropriately in the post.
  3. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    No amount of mods, the HD650 KISS, the JAR 650, will make the HD650 have the transient response or "speed" and midbass clarity of the Elex.

    While the Elex highs and timbre can be tamed with mods (filter paper or similar) in front of the driver or damping behind it, the HD650 is slightly more resolving in the mids and highs when we start moving up to to really good amps and sources.

    Ultimately, both are different their strengths and weaknesses are opposite.

    Elex won't clip unless you listen very loudly hitting 100db 30Hz bass notes. In other words, I've never had a problem with music - as opposed to test tones.
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