Mr. Speakers ETHER Flow Headphone(?) Upgrade(?)

See #171
he is considering the Ether Flow C vs the Elear. Isn't the Elear open?

 

Is the difference that big between open and closed cans? I've only heard the hd800, store demo, less than ideal conditions. I didn't ab them with closed cans either.

 

Damn, didn't realize that. I knew soundstage, but had no idea there were that many differences.

 

Pretty the main reason to have closed cans is 1) you are a massive bass-head (bass-hole?) or you want some sound isolation (either coming in for from leaking out or both). Open cans don't isolate due to their, well, open nature.

The Ether C is possibly the best closed headphone there is, although there are some others that some people like (TH900, LCD-XC, ZMFs, T5, ATH-W5000).

 

Yes, that would be I... Basshead, or hole depending on who you chat with.

 

I wasn't thinking in terms of airflow. I was thinking more about the uneven cross sectional air pressure resisting the movement of the diaphragm.

 

Of course we all know that sound is just a very localized pressure wave. At a distance, the acoustic wave from the holes is going to be homogenized. In the immediate earspace though, and in between the diaphragm and magnet assembly, I think it potentially does matter. Whether that falls into the realm of audibility however, and whether or not Dan actually did the math or just juryrigged it... *shrug*

 

Bah I put an idea into audeze a year ago about adding holes to the diaphragm to even out distortion. With my total lack of experience and no knowledge of planar or fluid modelling do I get to moan if audeze use something like that?
I am more for altruism, company or community. Keep biting the hand that feeds you you end up with a Sennheiser Beats monopoly... That was a bad dream....
On general it's why I like it here, people help even after a kicking.
I going to upgrade my Ethers to flow as painful as that is. But the decrapifier thread is no different, spend to improve what you have. It would be boring here if it just had the 3 threads Yggdrasil A2 650 800.

If it isn't too painful on what he decides the upgrade cost is... F*King brexit gonna cost even more....

 

This did catch my attention. From Tyll's flow measurements.

 

THD measurement is wrong?

 

Yeah, THD looks wonky to me. I'll remeasure when I get a production unit. And yes, that impulse response is stunning. I'm surprised it doesn't quite image as well as the HD 800. Lots of new things to listen for on these cans.

 

Tyll,

Are they going to send you the Ether C flow eventually?

 

I have the Ether Cs and the lows are nonexistent. just flat and horrendous if I increase via EQ it distorts. For what I paid for these headphones they flat out suck. That's my opinion. I end up giving up on them and grabbing something else almost every time I pull them out and this is across every piece of hardware I plug them into. The listening experience is this... where are the lows? turn up the volume --adjust this and that... damn it's just loud and painful now... & I'm still missing decent lows. I grab another pair of cans... ahh there we go!

 

He also plots his THD graphs down to 0.000001% which tells me he either has no idea WTF the limits of his measuring rig are or that he doesn't know how to plot graphs.