Teachers should have a gun club for themselves. Get discounts on ammo and range time and have the knowledge and skill to defend themselves and their students.
My answer was too short. Proper gun knowledge and use would mean NO BODY would know teachers had guns except the teachers/faculty. Proper use is to not show your gun unless you are defending yourself. If you pull it out, you intend to use it. That simple. But having innocent children and unarmed faculty is just sad, like cows being led to slaughter.
It was a rough morning. A lot of teachers crying. A lot of teachers angry and ready to storm the castle. A lot of teachers nervous to come to work in the morning. And, in the face of it, we will continue to project calm to the young minds and souls that shouldn't have to deal with these things at such an age.
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That relies on every teacher being perfectly responsible without any room for human error. That is literally impossible and we will just start seeing more accidental shootings in schools. I'd also give it 2 weeks before a teacher snaps and kills a student or a student gets ahold of a teacher's gun.
I don't think people realize the kind of stress teachers go through in their profession.
Mystic, our youth give us reason(s) to be hopeful. They're taking charge and leading the way. Watch the Florida students at rallies and protests. It won't happen overnight, but I feel sorry (not really) for the fools who try to stand in their way.
We had our last mass shooting in 1996. Semi auto weapons were banned, followed by an amnesty period and buyback. No mass shootings since. I know situations are different in different countries, but it can happen overnight.
If even the notion that a Teacher is possibly armed stops one more school shooting, I'm all for it. It shouldn't be mandatory, but voluntary. If the Football coach was armed, there may have been fewer casualties. He was obviously a shepherd, not a sheep.
Having a gun in the home increases your risk of suicide and homicide. What do you think having dozens of armed teachers in the schools are going to do. Students WILL get ahold of these guns from time to time. Teachers WILL unintentionally slip when it comes to properly storing their gun.
The solution is not to turn our schools into the wild west.
The idea that more guns is safer has been debunked time and again.
There is no evidence to support arming teachers would decrease the amount of mass shootings. Gun ownership is at an all time high and yet mass shootings are significantly on the rise.
There is evidence to support alternative methods, but America won't talk about that until it decides it's children are more important than their deadly toys.
Sidestepping the whole politicised "how to fix the problem" arguments, it's deeply disturbing that teachers have to go through this kind of training in the first place. I am sure this is not what they signed up for when they entered their careers.
The rest of the world looks at this kind of thing and is completely and utterly baffled.
Not something I ancipated I’d have to do. Reminds me we have lockdown drill in a few weeks. Fact of life, once a quarter. Had a real one two years ago. Some folks shooting at each other running down street in front of the school. We didn’t know what was going on so we armed ourselves with ring stand poles. Now that was an interesting hour, sitting in the dark trying to look calm in front of the kids.
I can tell you my students definitely are affected by Wednesday’s mass murder. The latest one. But not likely the last. It’s in the back of the staff’s mind every day.
Long term effect? Absolutely. But, rather than make them timid or scared, my students are pissed. I meant what I said earlier. Change is coming (assuming Trump doesn't get us nuked first). Oh, wait? Did I get political? My bad.
@Mystic You jumped to the conclusion that I was talking about giving teacher's a firearm. That is part of the problem right there, lack of comprehension and assumptions.
I think people can afford to "look calm" less in front of kids. They are smart and have a right to know what bothers adults so they know how to change their environment. I'm also incredulous at how impressionable some people can be, convinced that arming more people with guns will deter gun violence.
Methinks the comment about lack of comprehesion is a bit of a cheap shot, @JK47. In the context of this discussion, it was fair to read into your comment as arming teachers with firearms.
And as a teacher, I can say it is not bullshit to think that this profession has its fair share of people who cannot be entrusted with a weapon to protect others. We're just human, and some of us will err.
@JK47, was hoping you would respond in a way which actually addresses arguments instead of the arguers. But if you really do think it adds to the value of the discussion to act like this, then hey, you do you
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@Skyline, thanks brother! The job is a tough one, but the sense of purpose is second to none.
So @Mystic why aren't there teachers slapping kids all the time then? If they are so stressed out that in 2 weeks they would be willing to murder a kid how are they not so stressed that they would hit one. You're saying you put a gun in someone's hand and all of a sudden they go from being able to control their emotions to someone that cannot and would resort to murder? That's a pretty huge leap of faith.
That's not what I said at all. As for your analogy, some teachers do hit their students. More often then you would think, though that's not going to make the evening news. Some do even worse than that. Teachers are some of the best people mankind has to offer, but they are still only human which mean not everyone is infallible.
Im not trying to say we should give all teachers guns, thats not the answer. That said if one wishes to carry I am not against that either. So maybe we think about an enhanced CCW for them, if they want to carry they have to go through more training than the average CCW holder since they want to carry in a school and they have to have continued training to keep the license. How about something like that?
Also I think we need to seriously consider having police in schools during school hours or at the very least armed security, though I would prefer police. I mean we do it with our money...but not our kids?
@loki993 There are solutions that have proven effective, but we won't try them because a good portion of Americans think they're special in comparison to the rest of the developed world.
I have a teaching certificate although I don't teach, I did complete the training. And teachers carrying guns is not only a bad idea, it is a stupid one. Let's move on. We don't have the answers and let's admit the solution will not be a simple one. Just sit back and listen to the kids for once and let us hear what they have to say about it.
We do have a police officer in our building which should be mandated across the country. I'm a bit shocked to realize that every school does not have the same. That makes 1 gun in our building and it's the only one I'd trust.
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