Beyer T1 Gen 2 Loaner, but where to buy first?

So you have a pair of T1s and you like them? Kind of curious what version? Just want to confirm. If you have the v1 have you had a chance to hear the v2 yet?

 

I will say the sound signature on both of them are kind of far apart from one another. Have you listened to the HD 800 and prefer them?

 

Your story makes me wish I had the HD-800 so I could send it to you. The few times I have listened to the HD 800 they were way too clinical for me. I did like them out of the Rag and Yggdrasil from Schiit but I know it wouldn't suffice for me to listen unmodded for long periods of time. Unmodded the soundstage is great, with details up the wazoo, but for me they are too bright and lean (lacking in the bass dept for me). I primarily listen to rock and roll, hip hop, and electronic music.

In regards to the v2 Beyerdynamic T1. I liked it I thought the speed was good and the bass was definitely there. It picked up more details and had a decent soundstage. In regards to soundstage and details no way does it beat the HD 800. If you are interested in the new tesla driver I would also say if you can to try the DT1770 as this is a much cheaper version with the new v2 Tesla driver and I actually liked it better than the T1.

Personally it's up to you and it's unfortunate that you have to buy something prior to trying it out because that is really costly especially if in the end you don't like what you hear and can't listen to it for hours on end.

 

Awesome. I just looked up audio shops so Jaben Audio is the closest to you (definitely a plane ride away)?

 

Your irony is a bit simplistic. Please note that my response is intended more for the general audience - it's not a point by point disagreement against you personally.

1. Many respected people (Luis, Ravi, Gilberto, Tyler, myself, etc.) on this site actually do not like the HD800, modded or not. For me, there might be a synergistic system that plays well to the HD800's strengths and ameliorates its weaknesses; but generally, I do not like the HD800s nor do I use them. I don't worry about it if other people love the HD800 as I completely understand the reasons why.
2. The bashing against the Beyer T1 comes from both objective data and a subjective impressions. A majority of people here do not like the T1 on a subjective level. The T1 measures poorly in the mid-treble and we've even measured one set with radically different frequency responses between the L and R driver. There has also been some unit to unit variance with the T1. Also Beyer has had some driver mismatching and unit to unit variance with other models. Are we prejudiced against Beyer because of these reasons? Absolutely. But that didn't prevent us from placing the DT800 250/600 ohm model in the Leaderboard.
3. As for the Audeze bashing, it's been less about their sound, but rather the severe reliability issues and very inconsistent transient response performance from unit to unit; especially given how much they charge for their headphones. There's been objective data to support these assertions backed up by subjective impressions. Had Audeze been able to replicate the uber LCD3 I owned that worked for 24-48 hours, or Craig's cherry picked LCD2r2, 90% of people here would have been totally behind them. Yes, there is prejudice against Audeze for the reasons.
4. As for the Chord Hugo, the Hugo comes up often only because Hugo's marketing people or crazy fans (who haven't heard anything else) keep shoving it in our faces. As a DAC/headamp combination, it's pretty dreadful if you have to drive something with moderate sensitivity. As a DAC, it's OK, but definitely not worth the price, not even 1/2 or 1/4 the price. I think the only person who was able to elucidate some specific good points (and I agreed with them) for the Hugo was Currawong. But even then, Currawong had to acknowledge that the Hugo was overpriced, or said something to the effect that Chord products were not meant for mere mortals with limited cash like us.
5. The Sennheiser HD6x0 is valued because of its long history of being a good headphone for not much money. Not many products have been around as long as the HD6x0. That says something.
6. The Schiit gear has not been universally loved. I did not like the Asgard. I found the Lyr disappointing given all the HF hype once I heard it. But those guys (Jason and Mike) were always pleasant, didn't make excuses, never implied that I was deaf, and didn't shove their gear or viewpoints into my face. They silently improved their products and showed me (not told me) how good their stuff can sound with their generation two stuff. That earns a lot of respect. Schiit is popular everywhere, not just here, because of one thing: value. Schiit is the anti-Chord.

Finally, I wouldn't worry too much you if you happen to like something that seemingly everyone else here hates. I loved the W3000ANV; but most people here gave me funny looks when I used them. Misterrogers and I liked the HEK a lot more than everyone else the beta and we don't really care about what the other people think. It's just the way it works here.

As far as the subjective or objective angle, I've said before: not too tight and not too loose. Don't forget one motto we've carried over here from Changstar: too subjective for objectivists and too objective for subjectivists.

Finally, I find that most people who level charges against us or specifically against me as being biased or not neutral, aren't exactly that themselves. I find it amusing when I read on HF something to the effect of: "Purrin is biased. Purrin favors Schiit. Allow me to tell you the truth about gear". It's human nature to be prejudicial. I'd trust people more who are willing to admit that.

Just be happy we are not taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from MOT sponsors or asking for schitload of free gear under the pretense of "reviews". I think that presents a more difficult kind of bias.