Merv's Politically Incorrect Audio Blog

This conversation I don't even understand. I'm lacking the intelectual capacity or, maybe, the points of reference. No idea who Yuri B is.

But, whether the answer is on-point or not, this I can say...

The value of ideas is often in making people question what they think they know. Or have been taught. Or generally accepted.

The "sixties" were a breath of fresh air. And there is very simple and forum-appropriate evidence of that: look at the music!

 

Have to do a minor vent: The shit at Columbia University happening ATM is not protesting but terrorism. Barricading and causing damage to a building is no different than being Hamas. Protesting is one thing, but causing damage is just being a terrorist at this point. If they want be like terrorist, they should be treated like terrorist.

 

Well I would say it's not exactly the same. It is trespassing, squatting, damaging property, etc. etc. and of course if there was a will it could all be cleared out within an hour legally. If they were 'protesting' abortion or something similar none of this would be tolerated and everybody knows it.

It's all part of the Leftist Show, and therefore meaningless. I tell you what though, when I see them holding up signs saying ' push them out' and ' there are more of you than there are them' it does make me want to see somebody hold up a sign saying ' carpet bomb Gaza' or something similar.

 

Pretty dramatic re: what constitutes “terrorism”.

 

Maybe those who worship those who commit actual murderous terrorism is close?

All I see is a toxic combo of:
1. Ridiculously over-privileged ignorant young people chasing societies latest leftist dreams in ill considered ways (most of these young nitwits). Too stupid to think through anything involving, say, logic
2. A small cadre of truly racist, anti-Semitic, supporters of violence to get them all whipped up. (Not just radical Islamists, put professional “rabble rousers”)
3. The usual globalists paying to fund the frenzies as they make themselves ever richer whilst pitting groups against one another to pull the wool over their eyes.

Same as it ever was.

Ironic the D’s are making their political bed in Chicago this year…. Just like 1968… same scheit, diffferent generations.

People. Don’t. Learn

 

Yah. Reminds me of the 'Nam protests. I hope Kent State doesn't repeat.

 

I try not to comment often in threads like this because I like it here but I don’t like bullies much. I hesitate to call them terrorist for supporting a group that most of them probably know nothing about, but at the same time the Hitler Youth weren’t viewed as terrorists either until it was too late. Maybe more people should have spoken up then too.

 

It’s certainly not looking good.

 

I’ll say this as a Jew: The last few years is really making some of my people reconsider who they are voting for in the future. May not matter much in NY or in CA, but one reason why FL is FL is all of my people who left places like CA and NY for more safer lands in GOP run states. Do most agree with the GOP on all policy? No, but when their old political home is run by guys who supports people who don’t have a problem wiping Jews off the face of the map, they will jump ship.

I know some Jews who don’t longer vote straight ticket Democrat because of this mess. At least in my backyard, I know some who more or less vote GOP full time now due to these issues.

 

The stink of right wing brain rot here is disgusting. I think I’ll extend my suspension, maybe permanently. f**k all of you who re defending this genocide, f**k all of you who prop up and support the fascist takeover of this country.

 

@YMO youve always presented yourself as a clown, but saying that student protestors are as bad as Hamas proves you in fact really are one.

@Bowmoreman Your not so thinly veiled racist rants and your constant references to (((globalists))) isn’t as subtle as you think it is. You are a genuine piece of shit and it is disgusting you’re still around.

@crenca You look oh so cool when you make jokes about signs saying “carpet bomb Gaza” when over 30,000 people have in fact been carpet bombed. But since they’re mostly brown and Muslim it’s fair game, right?

And a special shout out to @Claritas for never failing to get on his knees and deep throat America’s big fascist military boner while also running to the mods anytime anyone says anything even slightly negative in response. You’re a pathetic, cowardly piece of shit.

We always talk about how SBAF is like a local bar. Well when you let Nazis drink at your bar, you know what that makes you? A f'ing Nazi bar. See you all in hell.

Mods, please ban me permanently. I’m not coming back.

 

Politics is what destroyed Changestar. Please don't let this happen to SBAF.

 

I was not around then but I don't believe that is true. @Merrick throwing a hissy fit is not "politics", and it does not ruin anything except his own stability of mind and heart. Indeed it is the opposite of "politics", it is just pushing and shoving, ranting and raving, and is meaningless to anyone who was not born yesterday...

 

For the record, I am not “throwing a hissy fit.” This is how things get out of hand as they already are. It seems everyone has their fists up ready to put up a fight. Usually I avoid this thread for this very reason, but lately it’s been off the rails. Some ranting, but then things get personal. People have very strong feelings and much respect and filters have gone out the window. I just hate to see it some to this - being at each other’s throats and all.

I’ll say out and keep trying to find my inner Dude. Peace.

 

Oops, I meant @Merrick of course - my apologies for the typing your name instead!

What you say is true (strong passions, etc.) but it always has been thus. Politics, at least in the classically liberal spirit that was (still largely is) the foundation of our culture was the artful and mature rejection of "the extremes", or at least its bracketing off and out of the center of "reason" . It takes a "tough skin" however, a tolerance of those who think/believe/speak differently. Capitulating to the ranters and ravers is the disintegration of politics, not its protection. We need more (genuine) politics, not less...

 

Certainly, even those who openly support Hamas, and cheered on Oct 7 murders, are not as harmful as Hamas. Yet.
But it would be stupid to give them any window of opportunity, any whatsoever.

 

I think the "they're terrorists" or "they're the exact same as Hamas" rhetoric is extreme, and concerning in the sense that it feels like the pretense to justify deadly action. I find it disgusting that anyone would call for Israel to be massacred and wiped out, but also part of living in a society with such permissive free speech is that people are allowed to say disgusting things if it's not directly tied to violent action. Obviously in non-public spaces you can prohibit/expel people over what they say, but I think some care still needs to be taken about when force is used.

Also, I'm okay with some civil disobedience and minor law-breaking when it comes to protests personally (and not just ones I agree with), but I think the line has definitely been crossed on some campuses. Peacefully occupying a space you're not supposed to be in? Generally, that's morally okay in my book. Heavy property damage and violence? Nah, too far. Some of the protests have clearly crossed the line (notably, sometimes it's the counter-protestors or police crossing those lines). I don't think most campus protests across the country have crossed that line.

In terms of the ideological positions of the pro-Palestine protestors, I think there's likely a small minority of protestors who are truly in the "Hamas was right to attack, destroy Israel" take, with the larger protest movement mostly supporting innocent Palestinians (not Hamas) against what they feel is long-running oppression and a disproportionate response to Oct 7 by Israel.

I think there's an obvious problem of rising antisemitism, but it's not cut-and-dry that being on the pro-Palestine side in the protests is indicative of that. There are Jewish protestors on both sides of the protest.

 

if we can't co-exist in an audio equipment forum, then the world is more fucked than i already believe it to be.