Schiit Eitr Preview Thread

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by Rotijon, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. zerodeefex

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    Definitely going VDC > VAC > VDC is optimal, right? Esp in a jewel encrusted case.
     
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    Obviously a new DC power supply would be best bypassing / replacing the entire existing power supply. The spots on the board after the regulators would have been ideal.

    The thing about batteries is that modern regulators have less noise. There is this ORFAS notion that batteries are super quiet and that this results in gear with super inky blackgrounds. Batteries do have noise. But it is true they won't have the shit seen on today's AC outlets.

    So the best spot for the DC battery pack would be after the diodes but before the regulator. I guess before the diodes is OK for the sake of simplicity and not having to solder wires on the board.

    I wouldn't doubt better performance, but the entire gist of this thread would have been missed:
    • Eitr is awesome for the money.
    • It beats other solutions up to $1300.
    • Stop the neurotic shit.
    ...

    Now I don't have a problem with sharing tweaks, but such things need to come with a good write up, in a separate thread, that includes at least the following:

    List of parts
    Procedures to assemble
    Photos
    DMM measurements - basic to verify sufficient voltage
    Battery capacity / run time
    Impressions, along with associated gear used

    Otherwise, it's not any different from me telling you how jacking off and spooging cum over the Eitr makes it sound better. There is a difference between real content and fleeting random thoughts.
     
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  3. TonyNewman

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    Got my Eitr today. Early impression is that it does indeed outperform my Singxer SU-1.

    SQ comes across as more real / analog.

    I had no issues with my Windows 10 PC. Plug & play - unit was recognised immediately.

    Considering the cost of the unit, I put this one down as a big value win for Schiit. Like the Yggdrasil, a piece of audio gear that punches well above its weight.
     
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    I've been listening to the Bifrost Multibit with the Gen5 upgrade for about a week now.

    To my ears, the Gen5 seems to have corrected what I've I always perceived as a soft character to the bass presentation of the Bifrost Multibit. The bass now sounds better, more layered and more present, after the Gen5 upgrade.

    Also, the overall tonality, to me, is now rather close to the tonality of the modi2u-4490, which was a little unexpected. I'm not saying that they sound equal in sound quality, which they don't, just that the overall character is now very similar. Whereas before, despite the overall improvement of the Bifrost Multibit over the modi2u-4490, the modi2u had a little better bass presence. Now they sound more similar across the board. The Bifrost Multibit is still more accurate, controlled, and holographic.

    But obviously I can't A/B this, so I'm curious to know if others hear these things in a similar way.
     
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    Ideas for USB to SPDIF interfaces for the larger chassis:

    1. Bifrost chassis: add a SPDIF in/out external processor loop (for running hardware EQ/ Dirac) and another USB input - two USB inputs are useful for many ppl.

    2. Gugnir chassis: make the external processor loop AES and add a Dante Network Input and a remote.

    I think PPL would pay ~400 for 1 and ~800 for 2.
     
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    Adding all of that is trying to turn these into something they were never meant to be, and would add unnecessary cost and complexity. K.I.S.S.

    If you need/want all that fluff, just go look at focusrite stuff.
     
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    Two inputs and a processor loop is not complexity. Analogue preamplifiers used to have them way back when America was great. :)
     
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    Schiit-europe also confirmed to me that the self-install option is available just an hour ago. After @Marvey 's super awesome Yggdrasil self-install guide, a local installation should be relatively easy to sort out. Putting the order through them soon.

    Edit: One issue I have encountered is the shipping price being €60, probably reflecting Yggdrasil return shipping. Awaiting clarification from the distributor regarding shipping price of board.
     
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    Has anyone had a chance to compare the output of an Eitr to a CD transport?
     
  12. JK47

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    Just briefly.

    Previously I listened to Stevie Wonder's "Superstition" on cd with my Sony transport plumbed to Gungnir Multibit via spdif coax, then ripped the same track with EAA to a 16/44 flac. Then played it with Jriver MC22 sent to wyrd to Gungnir Multibit . The cd definitely had more clearly defined leading and trailing notes, the flac was slightly more smeared and hazy sounding.

    With a brief comparison cd vs Eitr it was a toss up, but it was only a quick listen.

    I use the coax for the CD player and the coax to BNC converter for the Eitr. So it was fairly easy to quickly a/b the tracks by switching the input on the Gungnir Multibit.
     
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    Received it and after doing a quick test of comparison with singxer f-1 feed by regen, i'm thinking that eitr is better, especially in aspect of having more body in mid, good separation, giving more cleanness to music.
    And after doing another compare with belcanto mlink which has far less control in bass and its high is not clear, resolution is worse than direct usb connecting from pc to f-1.

    Sorry for my bad, i just want to know what solution is for that which they used and let know straight as many user are here.
    I'll be in touch with schiit directly

    But I have issue that it randomly clicking* when using it on my foobar with settings of output device selected on asio c-media and schiit offered usb driver version is 7.0.11.160 as i have struggled installing new version of that.
    As far as i know usually clicking is occured in case of both sampling rate is changed and get interrupted as refer to "for our Bifrost and Gungnir DACs to click (mechanically, from the chassis) during normal operation. That’s the muting relay, doing its job. It clicks whenever the SPDIF datastream is interrupted." on schiit site faq 'dac problems'.

    And question is should i install win10 and it will fix that problem? (i have to use only window os for music, games)

    *when Bifrost Multibit sounds clicking, The audio sound has not been interrupted but i hear only tictoc sound from Bifrost Multibit chassis.

    ps. All of test implemented with Bifrost Multibit
     
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    Personally, I doubt that it's a driver problem. But I would contact Schiit support regardless, they're good.
     
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    What are you using to connect the EItr to the Yggdrasil and what was your connection from SU-1 to Yggdrasil?

    Edit: Also for people using the EItr into the Yggdrasil, are you using a transformer to go from SPDIF to AES or direct SPDIF sounds the same? Has anyone compared the differences?
     
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    Hi dude
    which rca bnc cable do you use exactly?

    thanks
     
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