Burl B2 Bomber DAC Review: Holy Sh**, This is Good

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by purr1n, Jul 14, 2020.

  1. Clemmaster

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    If @CEE TEE 's unit has the Dante input, you should give the Dante Virtual Soundcard or Dante VIA a try.
    You can get a 30-days trial license for $15 (it used to be free for 7 days, not sure if it's still the case).

    You need to dedicate an ethernet port to the Burl and connect it directly. The Windows or Mac auto IP assign (169.x.x.x) works just fine. If you don't have a spare one, a USB to ethernet will work, too.

    Then it's just a matter of installing Dante Controller to do the set up and set your player to resample to your desired (fixed) sampling rate.
     
  2. purr1n

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    After I get back from Colorado next week, I need to get that Burl and restart the loaner. We should get a new unit with the Dante.
     
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    Sorry, @Josh Schor my unit does not have the Dante Card.
    Need USB to SPDIF converter or a streamer that can do COAX or AES.
     
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    Would love to get ears on this as well via loaner.
     
  5. Josh Schor

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    Any suggestions on a good sounding convertor and spidif cable?
     
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    I had a pi2 and could never get it to work properly, Im a noob, much to difficult for me.
     
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    Hello, I’m still enjoying my burl b2 bomber dac :) but I’ve been considering going portable, so she might be looking for a new home.
     
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    You might find a few interested parties here, but you'd have to tell us which version output modules it has, dante or not, etc.
     
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    It doesn’t have the Dante card but has the latest module, bopa 8. I bought it because of the impressions on this thread :) 2 years ago
     
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    wondering if you have been able to do this, get the burl for a loaner?
     
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    If there is anyone willing to loan me there Burl b2 bomber I would appreciate it, really want to hear it on my rig.
    best,
    Josh
     
  13. CEE TEE

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    @Josh Schor please PM me your address and phone number so I can coordinate my B2 to you.
     
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    thank you Cee Tee, can someone explain what the Dante does and how it works and is used and if there is a benefit to using it? I have read the Burl site and I am not clear on it.
    best,
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    It's a way to stream data (i.e. music) to your DAC over an ethernet (wired only I believe) instead of using of USB, s/pdif, AES, etc. Unless I'm mistaken the thing is you have to have a dedicated hardware/software driver in your computer (so you have to be able to set up such things). Think of it as an older and less developed version of Roon's RATT protocol
     
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    Thanks for the info Crenca
     
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    It's more specialized, but not less developed :p

    It's a way to transmit MANY channels (>64) with very low latency over cable network. Pros use it a lot.

    It does not support sample rate switching, so you have to fix the sample rate on the DAC and resample from your player.
    I set mine to 192kHz and resample with Roon.

    The big advantage of Dante is it runs over ethernet - which means it is inherently galvanically isolated - and the DAC itself is the master clock if you set its clock to internal and set its clock source to external in Dante Controller.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification @Clemmaster . Based on what you said I would say Dante is not very relevant to the consumer market these days, even one a relatively niche/specialized as most audiphools here on SBAF ;)

    We don't need multi channels, world class latency, or external clocking. As Rockna and Holo Spring are proving, we can be input source agnostic and get the quality we are looking for.

    Heck I'm galvanically isolated up until my Pi2AES/Mercury (wired for me - but would also be if I was using wifi ;) ), and only a short 12 inch AES run after that, though this fact may or may not be relevant to the quality of any specific chain.

    What RAAT and Roon offers on the network level is significantly more 'plug n play' and thus doable for the vast majority of consumers, and depending on the endpoint delivers the equivalent quality unless I'm missing something.

    Now look what you have done, I'm sounding like I work for Roon :confused::p
     
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    Thanks for the explanation , does not sound like anything that I need to think about
     
  20. Clemmaster

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    Well, it’s the best input on the B2, so it’s worth tinkering for that reason.
    But yeah, it’s not plug n play.
     

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