Cleaning Vinyl

Discussion in 'Music and Recordings (vinyl , 8-track, etc.)' started by JK47, Sep 29, 2015.

  1. Wfojas

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    Also, if you don’t use an ultrasonic machine, you can increase the concentration by 10, and do a wet scrub and double rinse. Get the ripoff MoFi wet brushes or the Record Doctor brushes, a lazy susan, distilled water and a microfiber brush. This will approach the AIVS quality fluids for a lot less. If you are super duper cheap, get home depot paint edger brush, but use it very very gently.
     
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    I picked up one of the 3-LP versions of the Vinyl Stack.

    Suggestions for tanks?
     
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    I'm going to bump this for my own benefit to check out, along with the Elma P60H.
     
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    Resurrecting this thread.

    I’ve been considering the Pro-ject VC-E vacuum based RCM when I stumbled upon this:
    https://humminguru.com/

    This started as a Kickstarter and should be shipping this month or next for backers. They have pre-orders up on their site. Ultrasonic all-in-one for a super affordable price. Apparently they working protos shown in various videos on the net. I guess I’ll hold off and see how reviews of this thing go. The more hands off the better for me.
     
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    @shotgunshane , looks like a good value if it all works. The price is less than a DIY build with a generic ultrasonic machine and the footprint is a nice size. My biggest issue with ultrasonic record cleaning machines is storage when not in use and the need to set everything up just so.

    Next step: figuring out what cleaning agents to use ;0
     
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    Thanks for putting that ultrasonic on my radar, hoping it ends up being a solid affordable unit.

    Wanted to give you a heads up though to avoid the Pro-ject VC-E, as it has a fatal design flaw. Due to its small size, it exhausts below the overhang/underside of the record, getting the bottom side wet/dirty during operation. It is a known enough issue that people are working on fixes: https://www.audioappraisal.com/a-fix-for-the-pro-ject-vc-e-exhaust-vent-moisture-issue/

    The next model up though, the VC-S2, doesn't have the same issue and looks to be a solid unit.
     
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    My understanding is that the manufacturer doesn’t recommend any cleaning agent, just distilled water. That’s not to say a cleaning agent can’t be used but it will apparently void the warranty should the cleaning agent be the cause of any breakdown.

    It possible that this unit will be pretty good with just distilled water as the transducers (or whatever they are called) that produce the ultrasonic bubbles are located on each side of the record album, where as most ultrasonic cleaners, particularly those that are just spinners on top of a generic cleaner, have the transducers art the bottom. Perhaps this will make more effective with just water.

    I’ve read about the VC-E exhaust location. Pro-ject now supplies a clear acrylic/plastic disc/platter to protect from the exhaust. However I figured I could just slice a plastic water bottle up and make a little DIY vent diverter easily enough.

    I’ve read some reports of the VC-E being quieter than the VC-S2, so that made it more interesting to me. I checked out the VC-S2 at my local dealer and it was pretty dang loud and surprisingly large in footprint. Large enough I worried about where I’d store the thing.

    At any rate, I’m going to wait on initial impression of the production Humminguru before finally deciding.
     
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    The Humminguru has been shipping to backers. They have nearly 1200 backers and I believe they are over half way through getting them out.

    Early impressions and videos show a pretty quiet cleaner; so quiet you can talk over it without raising your voice. There has been one report I’ve seen of one that is slightly loud with a high pitched screech.

    From the videos I’ve seen, it looks like the transducers are towards the front of the until, on the left and right and nothing towards the back. All in all, it looks solid for a sub $400 unit.

    In regards to cleaning, it does a solid job based on the videos I’ve seen. You have choice of a 2 and 5 minute cleaning cycle and a 5 and 10 minute drying cycle. Most users I’ve read impression or watch videos on have reported it takes around 7 minutes or so to completely dry a record. Records come out pretty clean for the most part. It does seem to struggle with fingerprints but this really seems more to do with the Humminguru only using distilled water and no other additives/surfactants. A few people have added IPA mixture with great results. I’m sure more will experiment with other proven cleaning solutions as time passes. The relatively low cost of admission means many will experiment and not worry too much about voiding warranties.
     
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    I have one In the house, will post impressions in a bit.
     
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    Very excited to hear what you think. I have my nitty gritty in with the manufacturer to refurbish, but still interested in pivoting to this if it is solid.

    As an aside, super awesome that nitty gritty sticks by their stuff. Charging me $80 to factory refurbish a 30 year old machine that I bought second hand.
     
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    I love Nitty Gritty. The one i bought in 1997 is till alive and kicking. I actually do a 3 step wash with a Vibrato 80 khz, a rotisserie thingie with three records at a time and the Nitty Gritty or a VPI 16.5 in the end, but that's a major time sink. I end up with about 36 records in 4 hours, and very tired. And 3 hrs of my life gone, and that's insane. The discs are super duper shiny, though.
     

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