Do you hear a melody or syllables?

Discussion in 'Blind Testing and Psychoacoustics' started by Empyah, Nov 19, 2024.

  1. Empyah

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    I would encourage especially ASR believers to watch this.

    I believe this video to be an excellent reminder to ask ourselves how much there still is to know about our perception of music and music reproduction.



    To try to cram the enjoyment and experience of music into THD is simply laughable, when there is literally so much more to hear.

    Edit: There are English captions tho you don't need them to get the point.
     
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    Even in the 100% can hear the melody part, I could barely heard the melody over the "sound, aspects, and details of his voice" in the same part. As loud as the whistling was, I still had to very consciously lock in on it to hear the melody over even little details such as the tonal details in his voice. Doesn't surprise me though as a lot of the "less tangible" parts of music such as the melody are the parts I have always the hardest time "naturally" getting or even "consciously" processing.
     
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    Fascinating. But I can't agree to the "how little we know" thing. Sure, it shows how we do not know something. But it seems, science does know it. And here's a guy telling us about it.

    But I used to have saying that you might like, about audiophools and their cables, and stuff like that: the wires and connections that really matter are the ones inside our heads.

    Amazing that this guy is there, and doing this research. I wonderful how much other weird and wonderful sound-related science that I never heard of is also going on.

    Thank you for the experience :)
     
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    Very interesting indeed. If I remeber well the Institute had a test online whether you are a Tonic Keynote or a harmonic „listener“. They figured out that with professional musicians it is often the case that their choice of instrument depends to which of the two categories they belong. Some reading (in German I hope google translate does a good job for those interested):

    https://www.scinexx.de/news/biowissen/hoertyp-entscheidet-instrumentenwahl/

    English:

    https://www.klangwahrnehmung.de/en/discover-your-instrument/klawa-results-short-test.html

    https://www.klangwahrnehmung.de/en/klawa-short-test.html
     
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    Harmonics is a big part of Indian music, particularly Northern Indian. Listen to a sitar: one is never hearing one not because of a whole heap (18? I forgot) of "sympathetic" strings which are also vibrating along with every sound from the main strings,
     
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    That was genuinely interesting. I heard *a* melody on the first performance, but it sounded like a Gregorian chant. It wasn't until the 3rd performance that I could distinctly hear "Ode to Joy" as that melody. I think the lack of emphasis and time variation (which are in musical versions, i.e. emphasizing the 1 and drawing out certain words) threw me off on the actual melody. I think the 3rd performance was also the first time I could hear him using vibrato, which helped a lot from a musical standpoint.

    Also weird was that I played the melody in my head on every performance after the 3rd, as whistling. And now it's a f'ing ear worm :(
     
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    Thanks, my wording there did not manage to convey the meaning I was going for, edited it to suit the idea of the thread better, let me know if it makes more sense now.
     
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