IEM general discussion thread

I did not but have read from other 600 owners that they are a good pairing.

Yes, I found the sizing to be exactly the same with the IE Pro tips as the stock tips. The Pro tips are made of a sturdier material that doesn’t collapse as easily as the stock.

 

Just from my limited experience tip rolling, I seem to prefer wider-bore tips as specific IEMs allow; I love the fit of Final E Types, they're amazingly secure, but the like of Spiral Dot++es just sound... more normal? The ++es are significantly brighter sounding, enough so that I get a v-shaped sort of experience with the Campfire Solaris, but it's preferable to how the Final E Types are generally darker but with a more spotlit treble peak? I'm guessing that's just to do with bore aperture and how sound waves work.

I hate how annoyingly expensive the JVC tips are, but damn if they aren't well made.

 

Though I've not had mine as long, only 2 months, but my assessment is the same. I've been using either the IE Pro tips or the AZLA MAX with the stock tip's foam filter inserted, and would say if you were to only use one set of tips would agree the IE Pro is the best overall.

I agree on the current price being fair, but maybe not the best package-wise because the stock tips and cables leave a lot to be desired...though it's slightly negated because you get two cables, a standard 3.5 and a balanced 4.4. I wish the cables were less microphonic, built differently more like the Pro line's cables at least. Eventually they will be marked down to $500 new, I bet (and do go on sale for this price occasionally) but given what competing IEMs cost, it's a fair price for sure. I managed to get mine used for $450 and found out a few sets of the stock tips were damaged (they look pretty fragile) so the seller refunded me $25 in order to get IE Pro tips as replacements.

I also got an aftermarket cable, the onso iect_01, directly from a Japanese seller and would recommend any onso cable as it's been great so far. The onso 01 series is the same as the OEM cable that comes along with the Technics EAH-TZ70 for reference, and they have a few higher end series/models from that. I transferred the MMCX washers from the stock cable to the onso for a tighter connector fit, which I'd not done before...not difficult per se, but they are -super tiny- so you just need to be careful when removing them as it can go flying. Ask me how I know

I've tried Final E tips and they do fit nicely and work well if you want a bit more of a bass emphasis. Similar goes for Sony Hybrids and others with a more narrow bore. Something with a wider bore like the SpiralDot++ work too, but tlit the FR in the opposite direction as you'd expect. It's worth experimenting for your preferences, but my perspective is the intention by Sennheiser was to have a filtered tip (the stock tips have a silicone mesh to hold in an open cell foam insert) so the IE Pro tips make for IMO the best pairing overall.

 

Agreed, this has been my experience too and it depends on the IEM pairing on which tip works best. It does vary from ear to ear too. I too wish the SD++ and some others like AZLAs were cheaper, but it's pretty apparent they are a premium product...at least the ++ is like $20 on amazon now, when I got them way back around release you had to import and they'd be ~$35 via ebay

 

@Brause reported that Spinfit CP100 tips worked well for him with the IE200s. Their opening diameters are in-between the Spiral Dots and the Final Es - so yet another tip-tuning option.

 

I have the E-Types on mine currently. I don't feel a need to play around any further. From what I understand about the IE 200 is that it is a little more V shaped than U. Bit more aggressive.

 

I'm just wondering where the miss was on the tips for the ie600, you think they would have nailed this with a $500+ iem.

 

Yeah especially when Senn has some great tips with the Pro line already, they could've just used those really. I will say the stock ones aren't the worst tips I've ever used, but from my experience they seem more fragile (compared to Pro and others) and don't always seal well, so it could be some minor oversights with the design. When you can get a seal however, they sound good like the Pro tips, at least for the little bit of time I used them and there are people that use them with no issue reportedly. All the current IE lineup (200/300/600/900) come with the same tips AFAIK.

It's like the cables, technically speaking they have good construction and materials (and I like the low profile style of the right-angled 3.5 & 4.4), but the wire sheath material choice result in them being pretty stiff and microphonic.

 

How's Forza audio iem cables? I like their headphone cables, good build and reasonably priced for the quality.

 

Awesome, done then! I'm going to go with the copper one for ie900. Since the stock cable is copper and I like the sound of that.