MrSpeakers Ether 2 measurements and thoughts

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  1. Vtory

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    Just thought of an idea to exchange (on a short-term basis) my ether 2 and @jexby 's auteur. Want to hear auteur again with 3F this time, particularly I'm also wondering hardwood autuer (Kirk's loaner unit was teak). Any interest?
     
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    Good luck getting @jexby's Auteur. Hehe. I get the feeling you would have to pry them from his cold, dead hands.

    As for woods, I strongly prefer denser woods on these. Cocobolo, blackwood, etc.

    I'd loan out my Auteur, if I weren't addicted to using them with my 3F right now.
     
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    the real question is: how long could I live with such a downgrade? ;)

    a good idea and a fair offer to loan trade, right now need severe Auteur time with the new 3F.
    drop me a PM and we'll see if a time will match up.
     
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    Were we to ever ever have a meet again (RIP Colorado Crew) and were these not on a short term loan, then sure.

    It’s possible you were more picking up the NOS DAC at RMAF. And I think he had them on a Liquid Glass. I actually think these do really well with a good Schiit MB DAC and the right SS amp (Magni 3 having just enough warmth, but being fairly neutral, and drive to work well).
     
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    Waterfall plot attached. This is the cleanest result I've ever measured. A hint of wall-ish thing around 8k, but not serious to my eyes.

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    Only one measurement this time, but results are fairly consistent anyway once you have a good seal. Own compensation which is a mix of HEQ and HPN. 1/12 smoothing.
    1 kHz reference:
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    100 Hz reference:
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    Stock pads are the most neutral when comparing bass and lower mids to upper mids. The suede pads are a bit darker, perforated pads are much darker sounding.

    Treble sounds much better with both the perforated and suede pads. The metallic and zingy sound that bothered me is basically gone. The perforated pads have the most prominent treble overall.

    The Suede pads have some minor bass rolloff below 30 Hz, but not relevant until you get to 10 Hz.

    Distortion measurements are basically the same across all pads and uneventful.

    I like the suede pads the most. No weird sticky feeling like leather, very breathable and light mean they win in comfort. They also have improved treble without the super dark and distant sound of the perforated pads.
     
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    Got my room reasonably quiet and measured some distortion with the suede pads.
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    This is very good. Pretty sure this is completely noise/EARS limited. Looks like 0.1% or better across the board, excluding the noise spike, EARS 4.7 kHz distortion peak and increased distortion above 7 kHz from the sligthly derpy measured treble.

    Excellent headphone for EQ use.
     
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    Thanks for the impressions. Do any of these pads bump the mids forward per chance?
     
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    Sound wise, no pad really sounds more "forward" than other. The differences are in treble and how "dark" they sound. While the dark sound is a result of increased lower mids, I would not say that makes the mids sound more forward.
     
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    I've just swapped the stock pads for the suede pads and I couldn't hear that the mids are more prominent as a result. I do get a sense that the soundstage width has increased by ~20% or so. I also feel that the there is a shade of extra warmth and veil, and darkness, but that some of the sparkle across the frequency spectrum, or maybe the detail, seems to have become a touch muted. I'm not sure this last point adds to the qualities of the Ether 2 which I felt had outstanding highs. I also felt that the bass has also become a little more prominent but with a slight loss of texture and control.

    I kind of feel that the phone has lost some of its energy and verve but I'm running it with a Gilmore Lite MK2 which is on the warm side and a brighter amp might be more suitable with the suedes.

    In terms of fit and feel, there seems to be slightly less heat whilst wearing them, and the suede is a little more relaxed in contact with your head.
     
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    Turns out the suede pads don't have bass roll-off... if you spend enough time to get the seal right. I also found an older measurement of the standard pads that should be more representative of their sound. Since there are no upgrade kits out yet for those pads, I will not measure them any more for now.

    New compensation (HPN up to 1.3 kHz, then SBAF) which should display treble more accurately above 10 kHz. Also, a bit less smoothing this time.
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    I think the dip at 9 kHz is fake. It highly depends on seating. The dip around 4 kHz is probably over exaggerated. Certainly does not sound like 10 dB. I think the added 1.5 to 3 kHz of the suede pad balances out some of its extra darkness below 600 Hz. From 10 to 15 kHz, the Sude pad has a significantly higher level, giving it much better sounding treble. The high level above 15 kHz seems accurate. Not a big deal on most recordings, but on some it can be a bit too much and it sounds better when I take the edge off.

    When it comes to sound, I think the psyochacoustic compensation in REW displays perceived treble pretty well:
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