Perfect Seal AR6 Measurements

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  1. purr1n

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    Interesting... not really what I expected. How are these "neutral" but still look like they have a downward sloping treble? Any listening impressions?
     
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    Basically linear from deepest bass thru middle mids with an upper mid bump. Slightly laid back treble is how I describe them. I don't hear treble quite as laid back as shown in measurements. Definitely not as bright as my UERM but certainly brighter and more sparkly than Deca and UERR
     
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    Yeah, I hear more treble than the measurments would indicate too. The 4kHz peak is there, but the treble has plenty of sparkle and test tracks with sibilance do exhibit have siblance. There might be a slight dip around 7kHz,but it doesn't sound as broad or deep as the measurements indicate.

    @shotgunshane: I'm thinking I need a deep insertion approach to the Perfect Seal line of IEMs. The problem is that the nozzles are pretty wide, and the only tips I have tend to be larger Comply or the foam type which aren't conducive to getting a deep insertion. Any ideas on this would be appreciated.
     
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    Did the kit you received have some white double flange tips? Those really worked well for me- I have pretty straight and wide canals. Those white ones are a little stiff though. If you have bendy canals, as softer more pliable double flange would be recommended. For instance Meelectronics/Mee Audio and RHA double flange might work better, as they are softer silicone. Do you have any of the Pinnacle P1 double flanges?

    Of course triple flanges get deep but sometimes don't seal all that well or bend too easily. Also try reaching over your head and lifting the top of your ear as you insert it, that's the technique I use for Etymotic depth of fit.
     
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    Impedance curve added to bottom of first post.
     
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    I'm enjoying the AR6 on loan. Seems like it does pretty well, overall. Like @shotgunshane and marvey, I'm hearing reasonable treble presence. Only hiccup is violas sounding a little wonky in string quartets/quintets. I came to this thread wondering if measurements would show something, and there is that sizable bump.

    I like these more than the Deca, which I hear as having more treble and bass, in direct comparison.

    Big edit: These are $950?!?! Whoa. I considered these mid-fi and thought they are pleasant on that level. Competing with the Andromeda? No way.
     
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    Overall, I preferred the AR6 as well. I found the Deca to be too thick in mid bass. Don't know if it's a result of bass over powering Decas treble, but I found the AR6 to have more sparkle up top. Easier to hear detail and separation for me. Instruments (mainly drums) in some of my test tracks sounded a little lean with AR6 in comparison to Deca, however.
     
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