Sneakerheads thread

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  1. rhythmdevils

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    I don’t like sneakers :eek:

    *runs and hides from @zerodeefex ’s ban hammer*

    I only wear leather shoes and prefer old school classic designs. :oops:
     
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    I like those as well - I have done Photography work with the brand Maganni, they specialize in Hand-made shoes and they are based out of Spain. They have the American HQ in near me.

    Maybe not exactly classic designs but close, tho European. But they are a European company so.

    Again all handmade even the sneakers. These all retail between $400 - $600 per pair.

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    Then also also do limited sneaker drops - none of these will be produced again.

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    Dang did I scare everyone away with my fancy Whole-cuts! lol I really do love the "whole-cut" style of shoe tho for that type of shoe!
     
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    I have a lot of those. The sneakers are my mid life crisis.

    I want people to love what they love!
     
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    I have to admit, I find this one of the most bizarre and fascinating threads on the forum. It’s like I’m watching a documentary series about a subculture that I have absolutely no insight into. What is the endpoint - the perfect shoe? Is there an endpoint??
     
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    i can't speak for others but - no endpoint for me. a lot of my shoes are retro's of the shoes from my youth. shoes I wanted then but couldn't have. and it's also about having limited shoes not many others have. I am also into the fashion side of it too, keeping it fresh with what I like. then there is the artistic side of it too, love the materials and the designs. love me some high quality leathers, suedes, etc.

    it's also a bit of an investment, it's not my retirment plan or anything but they do have and gain value. I have very few shoes that are worth less now then when I bought them. a lot of mine are deadstock (unworn). I have shoes I paid $120 - $220 that are now worth $400 - $1,000. even shoes I have worn are still worth close to what i paid and again worth more in some instances even worn.

    The other day I did a quick count and I have just over 70 pairs right now. That' not counting other "beater" shoes, boots, sandals or anything like that. That's what I have in boxes.
     
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    It's fun and absurd and flashy. It's less mom's basement than audio and I enjoy it. There's no endgame. If you chase grails, it's easy to fall into a hole. It's about enjoying the hobby for me.

    I give away a lot of pairs to younger people who can't afford dope kicks. I also buy a lot of hype sneakers to help others who will wear them get them for MSRP.
     
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    Do you run up against disappointment very often, or are the shoes documented and built to such a standard that you can always feel confident about what you are going to get?

    Is there a dark side? It seems like a high level of FOMO is directly engineered into the hobby. Fakes? Surely there are fakes??

    How do you manage 70+ pairs of shoes?
     
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    Time for confessional… How many pairs of sneakers do you guys actually have? :p
     
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    I move pairs out and donate a bunch. I don't resell so I don't really carry boxes for no reason. It is already hard enough to cop heat and I don't want to sit on pairs someone else will wear.

    As far as disappointment, I guess it's temporary. I don't really mind missing out on something cool.

    With regard to reps, they're prevalent. I can't fault people when Nike and resellers make it so fucking hard to cop some models. I don't have any because there are more shoes dropping than I'll wear.
     
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    I'm a runner, there are always 8 - 10 pairs of running shoes around the house. 2 in current rotation, the rest for walking, mowing, etc. I got pretty sloppy over the years, and was wearing the retired ones out in public, especially to the gym to lift. They are all fugly even when new, and I finally realized I was falling into that wear-pajama bottoms-to Walmart cohort. There's a big basketball court at my gym, lots of young guys playing. I started to take notice of what they wore, and saw a pair I really liked (Nike Kyrie 7). I talked to the fella that wore them and he gave me the deets. Ended up buying a pair in a different colorway on eBay (they were released and bought out months before I decided I wanted them). I love them - I get compliments all the time out in public, and a few of the lads at the gym have come up and talked about shoes. I don't ever see myself in the @zerodeefex or @billbishere end of the hobby, but there's an Air Presto pair that @zerodeefex posted that I'm determined to find at a decent price. Then done for a while (done for a while, done for a while, done for a while)
     
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    Street fashion has always been a big part of urban/hip-hop culture, where one small way you differentiate from your peers is through having nicer clothes and shoes. One of the oldest memes is getting clowned for wearing off-brand shoes (Pro Wings, Keds). You had Run-DMC rapping about Adidas and pro basketball players endorsing sneakers, culminating up to Nike signing Jordan in like '84 and creating sort of the most iconic sneaker line ever. In the 80's and 90's, Jordan sneakers were pretty much the most coveted.

    Sneaker culture sort of exploded in the late 2000's because you had all of these kids from the 80's and 90's all growing up and having disposable income now. Shoe companies have re-released their old classics and capitalized. It's sort of no different than Marvel and Star Wars and other 90's trends all coming back around the same time. A common theme in older sneaker heads is that they can now buy the sneakers that they couldn't afford as a kid (which is true for me as well).

    Athlete endorsement of sneakers are still a big part of it, as all major stars will have their own lines. But nowadays the most sought after collabs are with folks in other industries like music and fashion, such as Drake (Ovo), Travis Scott (Cactus Jack), Kanye West (Yeezy), Virgil Abloh (Off White), Supreme, etc.

    There's a few different aspects that Ravi and Bill already touched upon.

    The first is the fashion element is still a big part. Even sneaker culture/design has huge influences on "high fashion" brands like Gucci, Louis Vuitton and Balenciaga. Not only can you have great designs in shoes, but sneakers can have a ton of different colorways which makes them a perfect outfit accessory.

    Another element is that some folks treat sneakers as collectibles. Some iconic designs are considered part of sneaker subculture "history". This is similar to any other collectible market like baseball cards or coins or even headphones to some (folks collecting classic or limited headphones). It ends up being less about the utility of the thing and more about what it stands for in that subculture. This leads to friendly rifts in the hobby of collectors that buy shoes to leave them in boxes and folks that buy shoes to wear.

    Also the rarity of some of the releases drives up the value so some are good investments as Bill said. This can lead to a lot of "flippers" for releases that people know will have big demand, where folks buy up stock and resell for higher. Same thing with PS5's or graphics cards or Tickle Me Elmos. You have some shoes like the Red Octobers which retailed for $245 when they came out 8 years ago, now selling for north of $15K.

    Gah, did not mean to write so much.
     
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    Hahaha quality standards are not a feature that matters much. You have so many people complain about the poor quality of Jordan releases but they still sell out instantly. Quality is a nice to have, but not a requirement -- since it's not really about the performance of the shoe most of the time.

    And definitely the rarity is built into releases to create FOMO.
     
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    THIS.

    It's about chasing the drip.
     
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    Also, during the period of super scarcity, I would source PS5s to sell to my friends at retail. It became a retention benefit to work at my startup that I could get you a PS5.
     
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    To the point that when they released Yeezys in numbers large enough to meet demand... demand dropped, because people wanted exclusive things, not things that anyone could get by walking into a store.
     
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    Yeah -- nothing really beats the feeling of seeing that SNKRS page that says "Got Em!". Or spending all day running around different malls entering all the local raffles and getting the call that you won one. I don't know if local raffles are as big anymore. I remember seeing kids bring their whole family (aunts, grandmas, cousins, etc.) to enter raffles for them.
     
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    These are the type of innovative compensation strategies that we need more of!
     

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