Verum Audio - Exciting high performance DIY planar

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  1. uncola

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    Mine just arrived a few minutes ago. Also took about 7 weeks. Holy crap build quality is super solid and the leather pads are really soft IMG_20200921_145338.jpg
     
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    I saw a thread about the ZMF Pilot and ZMF Co-pilot...
    Does any of you use it on the Verum?

    Which one should fit?

    Thank you
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    ZMF Pilot pads are very small. It may fit the Verum's metal headband, but probably won't fit the leather strap. I have not used the Co-Pilot.

    The Verum One mk2 also have very small fit. I'm having a hard time fitting it on my head. Adding the Pilot Pad will only worsen it.
     
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  4. uncola

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    Yeah I agree, I'd say it has a small fit because I'm 6'3" and I expanded it to maximum size and it only just fits comfortably.. if my head or ears were bigger it would be too small for me. But at maximum, it fits perfectly on my head like a glove.
    The pads magnetic attachment system is soooo easy to use. When I had Sennheiser hd600 and hifiman he560 I remember struggling like hell with the stupid tabs. The magnets in this thing are beefy and thick as hell. Really gratifying to see the guts inside with nothing blocking our view. You can see the bar magnets and the traces of the planar driver out in the open with no treble destroying fabric in front of it when you take the pads off. It feels like a device made by an audiophile FOR audiophiles.

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    As promised, this is my impression after listening to it for about 2 weeks. Received my headphone just like everyone else, it came in a crushed box. Luckily the headphone did not have any damage. Upon picking it up the color seems different. I ordered Boobinga and surely enough what I'm holding is Zebrano. Well, Zebrano would be almost my first choice so it's all good.

    Build quality looks solid. There's nothing on the headphone that seems to easily break. The screw on top of my headband does not have the V logo unlike the photo on Verum site. The leather fenestrated pads are angled and comfy to wear, it has a nice oval opening. The fake wood looks fake and feels fake too. Overall I am satisfied with the headphone built quality. It doesn't feel that heavy, I feel the M1060 is more heavy. But surprisingly V1 is 496gm while M1060 is 480gm. In comparison HE4XX is 420gm and HD 6XX is 251gm. I thought the headband adjustment would be cumbersome but it is easy and straightforward.

    The only thing I have issues with is the cable. I read before that earlier purchasers receive very thin cable that seems will easily break. Maybe because of that Verum changed to a braided cable that is very thick, but the thing is it's too thick and rigid. Compared to HE4XX and M1060 cables, it's way much thicker and harder to flex. Because the cable is harder to flex and heavier, I believe it exert a lot of pressure at the connector tip. The connector now is slightly bent and right side the audio will intermittently cut off when the cable is moved/touched. It got worse after days of using it, now a slight touch on the cable will cause the right side to lose audio. I ended up using HE4XX cable temporarily while looking for a replacement cable. I don’t know if others faced similar issues as me, I usually listen while sitting straight and have the cable going down to the floor then back up again, so that might cause more pressure on the connector.

    I compared it to 3 cans that I have and feel could compete with Verum One. The HD 6XX, HE4XX and M1060. Sorry guys, don't have premium cans. HD 6XX is totally stock, no change has been made to it. HE4XX pads have been swapped with angled leather fenestrated one as the original pads have started to disintegrate, I feel the new pads slightly boost it's low frequency while cut some of it's high frequency. My M1060 is a v2 with 2.5mm connector, the only mod done to it is added felt on most of the lines at the ear pad side, it helped to change it from very dark to warm sounding and bring the vocal more nearer instead of originally the vocal sounds far away.

    Onto the sound impression.

    Verum One (V1 from this moment on) have detailed treble without being sibilant. It is not as super sharp like HE4XX, but doesn't suffer hissing "s" sound that HE4XX have. It have more treble than M1060 but not by much, hard to notice the difference between both if doesn't concentrate on it. V1 is a lot better than HD 6XX, which in my opinion treble have always been HD 6XX weakness.

    Vocal on V1 is very clear, it is not as forward as HD 6XX, it's slightly laid back but still clear, detailed and no distortion. HE4XX feels almost the same but less refined. HD 6XX is the king for vocals, it's very forward and sweet sounding. M1060 is slightly more forward than V1 but not as forward as HD 6XX, I will say it sits between the 2 cans.

    Bass is where I have mixed feelings for V1. Maybe because I'm used to HD 6XX and M1060 heavier bass, I feel that V1 bass is lacking. It's sub-bass is very soft. It still has a good slam, just feels less full. It also lacks resonance or echoes that certain instruments such as cello or guitar make. This makes listening to such instruments feel less satisfying. HD 6XX has the most resonance and I usually prefer to use it when listening to music that emphasizes resonance. HE4XX is very similar to V1, lacking the oomph in bass.

    Sound separation and details retrieval is V1 strong suit. Every instrument details can be clearly heard without one masking the other. The soundstage is wide and easy to point where each sound is coming from. In comparison, other cans just aren't that good, though M1060 does come close to it.

    Listening to Lady Gaga - Shallow, the highs is sharp without over piercing, Bradley Cooper voice is clear while still can have the sharpness of guitar in background while HD 6XX less sharp. During Lady Gaga singing the piano start play, with HD 6XX the resonance envelops all the sides, with V1 resonance is almost not noticeable. Lady Gaga voice sounds sweet with sharp highs on V1, doesn't sound veiled like HD 6XX.

    2CELLOS - The Trooper (Overture) is full of resonance and sub-bass yet also has piercing high, comparing V1 with HD 6XX is like the opposite end of 2 sides. V1 have detailed highs but sorely lacking in sub-bass and resonance while HD 6XX give satisfying sub-bass and resonance but veiled highs. M1060 are in-between the two, it's high are not as detailed as V1 but doesn't sound dull, while it's bass and resonance are not as much as HD 6XX but still can be clearly heard.

    I turned to Niccolo Paganini's Caprice no. 5 by Sumina Studer for high frequency comparison. V1 shines when playing such music, the highs are very sharp and all the small details can be clearly heard. It has no problem reproducing the fast attack that this music has. HD 6XX is no slouch either, but listening with V1 feels more satisfying. M1060 and HE4XX are almost as similar as the V1. I also listened to the Augustin Hadelich version and the result is the same.

    I tried Tones and I - Dance Monkey for something more modern and bassy. HD 6XX have the most bass while M1060 is not that far away. With V1 the bass is there but doesn't take the main spot, vocals remain as the center stage. On some part, bass overpowering vocals in HD 6XX while it never happens with V1.

    Enough of my long rambling. In conclusion I feel V1 best matched for music that emphasizes high and mid frequency, and also vocal. It has a good slam for bass but it’s weakness on sub-bass and resonance will not satisfy those that prefer this type of sound. Overall it's a very enjoyable headphone. Except for the sub-bass, it has more similarity with HD 6XX, M1060 and HE4XX sound signature than difference.
     
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    Nice review, mate.
     
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    Thanks. I'm really impressed with this headphone.
     
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    What amp did you use?
     
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    I'm using Shiit Heresy with Topping E30
     
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    My Verums just arrived and there's a screw missing on the headband xD

    Other than that, they sound amazing. They are definitely going on my stay list...

    I will listen to them for longer, but they are blowing me away. And for that price, they are a big contender of my cost to sound A-listers.
     
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    Unfortunately, these things keep happening with Verum. Screw missing, broken sockets, uneven grills etc.

    Glad you like the sound though.
     
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    I don’t seem to have any issues with mine and I am really enjoying them balanced via the jot and modius.
     
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    Can someone please explain the recommendation regarding impedance adaptor? Im using Modius+MCTH(LPS) with Fengru 30ohm version and there's some differences I'm hearing with and without it - not sure if they are to be expected.

    With adaptor sound is slower, has less macrodynamics and sounds a little boring, however in certain cases clearer than without.

    Without the adaptor macrodynamics are very impressive, sound is more aggressive and I enjoy music more - however I think I sometimes hear distortion on guitars and high jumps in vocals. With adaptor I don't notice this but Im not sure if its the gear or that the aggressiveness in listening w/o adaptor just brings out the distortion in recordings a tad more. Has anyone noticed something similar?

    Edit: without adaptor 9-10oclock is max for volume I can bear, with adapter I sometimes dont get enough volume @3oclock and don't feel comfortable to push further.
     
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    It looks like you are trying to solve the problem of high gain by using the wrong solution.

    You should be using either a passive pre-amp between the DAC and amp or a pair of RCA attenuators.

    What this does is lower the volume prior to the amplifier adding gain, thus increasing the usable range of your potentiometer.

    Your impedance adaptor at the output of the amp isn't required as the output impedance of the CTH is less than half an ohm.
     
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    Thank you for your suggestion. Why is it better to weaken signal before amp instead of after amp?

    My worry is not that much of volume control but whether I'm properly driving these headphones. I guess the simpler question is if it is possible for Verum One to distort by being fed too much power - if not, then it just means I got confused by bad recordings.
     
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    Pros and cons. Slight attention with RCA attenuators to get more usable volume pot range is generally OK. Attenuation here will lower S/N ratio, but as I said, a little bit won't hurt you.

    Attention after the amp with stuff like the Ferengi 30-ohm attenuator is a very very bad idea. Especially with the Verum which averages a low 10-ohms impedance. What happens here is that the a portion of the voltage that the amp outputs is lost as heat. In your case, 30/40 or 3/4ths of the voltage is lost as heat. This is why with the Ferengi adapter, the Verum sounds dull, compressed, slow, etc.
     
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    it is more likely that the amp is to distort, not Verum. And an impedance adapter is actually for some amp's needs, not Verum's.
     
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    I really want to try this headphone, but the only Solid State amp I have is the Rupert Neve RNHP. Yall think I can drive the verum with it? I don't listen past 12 o clock with the 6xx
     
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    Verum's not hard to drive, I can run it with my smartphone
     
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