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  1. SteelCannon

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    The brits should have probably done what greece did(words heretofore unspoken) and forced everyone to vote. Then again, the greek people basically voted to leave the eu as well but they were betrayed by their evil (pretend)-leftist prime minister. Either way it is done and now is the time to look ahead. #varoufakis.was.right
     
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    Just a fact. Talked with one of my clients today. It s a European conglomerate with a strong Brit root and focus. And when I say strong, I mean 95% of top management is Brit and HQ was being finalized in London.
    WAS.
    They have frozen any investment in UK for the next 6 months at least. This morning.
    So say what you will, but this will have immediate consequences, even for deeply rooted Brit companies.
     
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    I always knew you were a shitlord, I even called you on it! You never bothered to reply however :( I can smell other shitlords all the way from the other side of the pond!

    Regardless, I'm abandoning this thread, rule 5 is becoming a meme. I know I know, this isn't head-fi and they aren't perticularly enforced, still though.
     
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    I'd like to request more Star Trek comparisons from Marv in future headphone reviews. ;)
     
  5. purr1n

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    Well, no one said this was going to be easy or that the "Leave" position was good for multinational corporations. It's not the end of the world, it's a wait position to ascertain what the future holds. Too much uncertainly right now and companies (big or small) hate uncertainty. In six months, they may still decide to go with the original plan. These kinds of things happen in business all the time. Talk about the movie business, that's ever more whimsical. As with any political decision, there will be winners and losers.

    I'm sure the black cab drivers (who all seemed to be English) are looking forward to the day when there are less Uber drivers (who were all obviously not English) to complete against. I preferred the black cabs to Uber and was willing to pay for the premium. Those black cab drivers knew their way around every nook and cranny in London and didn't need to rely on GPS. They used their knowledge of the streets and the Force to sense the safest and fastest routes at any time of the day. They even knew secret entrances, alley ways, and other routes to bypass roads under construction or large public events. The years of extensive training they supposedly undergo was definitely not BS.

    If you need to get to a place on time (I believe the British invented the word punctuality), or if one of Dr. Evil's henchmen is chasing you, go with the black cabs. I believe Uber lead to 009's demise.
     
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    You know, the English conquered half the world. Yes, they did that. From a medium sized island. And held on to that until they over-expanded - and two world wars took the steam out of them. Did anyone truly believe that the English would be willing participants in the long term, playing second fiddle to Brussels (a front for Paris / Berlin) in the United Federation of Planets, I mean EU? This was inevitable. In terms of the EU, the English always had one foot out and out foot in. Last time I visited, I was paying for my kidney pot pie and Fuller E.S.B with English pounds, not European euros.
     
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    When you said "black cab drivers who all seemed to be English", for some reason Seal came to mind; not that he's a cab driver. :p

    Uber seems to have far less appeal in places that already have decent mass transportation. Tokyo is another good example.
     
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    The EU started as a peace project to bring the European countries together. 71 years ago Europe was at war; Germany and England fought each other to the death, cities were leveled to the ground while women and children died of starvation. The second world war was not a Hollywood invention starring Tom Hanks going off to rescue a young Matt Damon. The European Union has been a very long-term project to bring stability and prosperity to the region. Have people already forgotten? The EU can be traced all the way back to the Treaty of Paris held in 1951 between France, West Germany, Italy, Belgium, Luxemburg and Netherlands. At its core the EU is about much more than immigration and tax breaks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union

    Nevermind the economics of it, good or bad for this person or for that person. Today is a sad day for the EU and a sad day for peace in general, which may or may not sound corny but I don't care. And even if you don't buy any of that I can tell you that Putin must be absolutely loving this right now, he's probably been celebrating with 2 bottles of Vodka. And it's a pretty safe bet that if there is anything which Putin likes, and wants to happen, you should be worried and you want the opposite. Which can only mean that anyone who is in favor of the Brexit is a commie bastard. Suck on that lollipop.
     
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    The "peacenik" view to European peace would hinge more on getting Russia into the EU than England. Russia vs. Germany in WWII was twenty times more devastating than Germany vs. England.

    The "warmonger" view feels that European peace hinges more on NATO than anything EU. Putin will celebrate with vodka when NATO starts to collapse. Actually, I think Putin would feel a lot better if NATO stopped expanding eastward and rescinded NATO membership for a few of the most newly minted members.

    The thing about the United Federation of Planets is that it is not only a trade union, but also a military one, with an extremely unified command structure. That is a major difference between the UFP and EU. If the UFP wasn't also a military union, the Romulans and/or Kardashians would have wiped the Federation off the map.
     
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    It was twenty times more devastating for Russia certainly.
     
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    I don't feel Russia, China, Burundi or Malawi are responsible for Fuckit.

    I also don't think the EU in itself helped substantially to improve peace in Europe, because I don't think it helped to homogenize Europe. A German today still sees himself as a German, which is too say, completely distinct to a French, Spaniard, English and so forth. Same goes around. There is IMO no strong European global identity, as when you talk about Americans (in the US) in general (I think Capt Merv said this better than me a few posts back).

    The strong individual country identities will IMO keep things a bit divisive. Sooner or later this was bound to happen, and may happen again in some other EU state.

    Is this going to be good for the global economy shortly? Proly not.

    Is this going to be good for the global economy long term? Difficult to see, always in motion is the future.
     
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    Well, consider how the German finance minister went all facist on austerity for Greece (who really did need more time to adjust, mainly because they are not Germans and not like Germans), I'd say the EU is probably making other nations and people more nervous. Nobody likes to be pushed around in a fascist way, and this includes sovereign nations. Expect Portugal, Spain, Italy, etc. next.

    I hate to say this, but the UK would probably prefer a trade union with the USA than the EU. It will probably happen. Think about it. Shared language, shared lineage, historical ties, close military relations. And the USA inking a deal with the UK by itself would probably be 1000 times easier than the USA inking a deal with the EU.
     
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    IMO. Possible.
     
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    I hear that Donald Trump may been an omega class mutant with Charles Xavier like powers. Evidently, the CIA (or was it Frasier Crane) built Cerebro; and Trump used it to control the minds of the less educated UK citizens into voting against their best interests.

    I wouldn't be surprised because we are already half way there with all the trade. I didn't even need to get a visa for London. Without the EU on its back, the UK will have lot more latitude for a US-UK free trade deal.

    Man, this has all the makings of a conspiracy theory. US multinational corporations, the CIA, and Donald Trump. That fat slob from Michigan needs to make a movie about this.
     
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    Why should Romanian peasants be let into the UK over fluent English speakers with advanced degrees from IIT?
     
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    Haha. Because they are cheaper for most service jobs. I only spoke with natives at the high-end shops on Regent street. Otherwise I was quite shocked at how many non-natives worked at the front desk of hotels or as waiters and waitresses or Uber drivers. Lots from central Europe. I had a hard time understanding some accents. It isn't even nearly that skewed in the USA.
     
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    The Romanians do the work the British do not want.
     
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    Tell that to the black cab drivers.
     
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    Anyway, the issue is control. Makes perfect sense to me that most UK citizens want the UK to be able to control who comes in to work rather than have Brussels decide (let everyone in). Australia is like the UK in that it imports a lot of its labor, some of this labor highly skilled. The difference is that the Australians can control who comes in themselves. Foreign workers need appropriate visas to work in Australia. Companies in Australia retain lawyers for this process and must keep documentation handy. You can't just have a random piece of euro-trash fly into Sydney and lie down in the middle of the street to disrupt traffic and get into an altercation with police.
     
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    Quality control on immigration? That sounds like something a crazy like Trump would want.
     
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