Merv's Politically Incorrect Audio Blog

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  1. Pancakes

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    So....can we impeach him now? Phone call to Ga secretary of state this weekend to add votes so he wins by 1. It's called election fraud. Oh and there was a threat in there - extortion. That's illegal. Recording of call is available everywhere if you want to hear it.

    As much as some of you hate liberal media, what's been said about dump over the last four years is blatantly true. Doesn't give a f**k about religion, his supporters, the law and, least of all America.

    And his lawyer calling for the VP to be taken out back for the firing squad? Are you f'ing kidding me?

    Not liking Dems is one thing but supporting a wannabe dictator is a whole different ball game.

    Some of you are from former communist countries (as am I) and others unhappy with the governments in China and other Asian countries. Yet you support Trump. I don't understand why you want the exact thing that made you leave your previous countries - a dictatorial piece of shit that gives zero fucks about the citizenry's wishes.
     
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    Stop reading dumb news not worthy of the WSJ.

    Trump has been cock-blocked in every direction. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger is a good man and won't be bamboozled by Trump (for anyone following quality news, this was obvious even before the recent tweets). Even the hardcore Trump supporters of Texas have taken their Trump-Pence signs and bumper stickers down. The California Trump guys in their 4x4s and Trump flags already made their last pass down The 101 - a month ago. The People have already accepted the outcome. This is the most important thing in any election.

    Why is Trump even a headline? He is no longer relevant. Why is CNN is still obsessed with him? Why aren't we talking about Biden foreign policy or US government debt or Georgia US Senator results instead?
     
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    After listening to the full one hour call between Trump and the GA SoS on my WSJ subscription, Trump reminds me of the various NY folks in my life who were good at breaking "your balls." So many folks freaking out but this shit is like a regular Tuesday for this NY native. Most of the time the ball breaking doesn't get you any where.

    Too bad Trump didn't get the memo that the NYC Swamp that he learned his tricks doesn't work on a national level.

    Look, he is out Jan 20 at 11:59 AM, more lame political theater for this week and also a great week for fundraising if you might consider running in 2024.
     
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  4. purr1n

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    No. The reason is that there is no need. Congress will be certifying the election results, Biden's victory, on Wednesday. There is going to be some noise from within the GOP, but this is business as usual.

    Trump's been an odd one. I think the nation will be relieved once he's gone.

    I am an American. As such I took American history and civics classes in high school and thus understand and believe in the nation's institutions. Call these classes a form of propaganda or brainwashing or what you will, but I do believe. Evidence that our system works are as follows: Trump was removed from office by the nation's voters - in the end, it wasn't that close; attempts by Trump to massage the votes in this favor were cock-blocked - by the states and and even the Supreme Court where Trump picked three of the Justices*!

    All politicians crave power. American politicians are no different than despotic ones from other countries. From a paper point of view, even China has a well written Constitution and supposed rule of law. The major differences are the traditions, the institutions, and the mindset of the people. People having guns helps too.

    I'm sure Giuliani in his mind thinks he may have a shot one day, but I am sure Trump will have convinced most voters to avoid NYC bosses.

    If you are concerned about concentration of power, I would look toward term limits on Congress. There's a history of senile congress members from both parties, desperately clinging on to power.

    *It would seem that CNN's fears of the Justices having to return the favor to the Godfather were vastly exaggerated. This came up before. All I have to say is that I told you so and neener, neener, neener.
     
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    Nope, they were out in full force on PCH and Main in HB yesterday, and most of them were Asian.
     
  6. purr1n

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    Hahaha. Lots of Asians were secret Trump voters in SoCal. Quite a few I knew were from China. Chinese who come here want to stay and be American. Even more now with Xi in power.
     
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    Congressional term limits are desperately needed. Also the ability of a supermajority of state legislatures to overturn a Supreme Court decision within some constrained time after the decision.

    The federal government was never supposed to be this powerful.

    The only possible way to get this would be for the state legislatures to call for a convention of states for the purpose of amending the constitution. Congress will never vote to term-limit themselves. Via either path, 3/4 of the states would still have to ratify any proposed amendment for it to become adopted.
     
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    I never understood Asian support for Trump. My wife is Chinese and hates the man so no help there. I can only conclude people base their opinions more on what news source they watch than anything else.
     
  9. purr1n

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    This is something I didn't want to bring up in the past because it's more divisive than I would like, but you mentioned it.

    CORRECTION: Trump gives zero fucks about your wishes.

    Time and time again, it's always this way.

    Trump's mannerisms and platform were obvious from the start. I said way in advance that it's going to be The Apprentice - Presidential Cabinet Edition, with random people in his administration being fired every week. (I told ya so!) I mean the creepy stalking over Hillary during the debates, who would have missed that? And even early on when Megyn Kelly called him on his behavior toward women, and Trump went off on her "bleeding" from whatever. And who could forget "grab 'em by the pussy"?

    But the fact remains, Trump ran on a platform, a populist one, and largely stuck to that platform. Whether he was successful or not in achieving these goals is debatable, but he stuck to it! And really, It looked more like Bannon's platform than Trump's.

    Let's look on what he ran on in 2016 - I will list what I can remember:
    • Anti-climate change, pro coal, anti international accords
    • Energy independence, pro fracking, pro pipelines
    • Pro law and order and pro death penalty
    • Kill / neuter ACA
    • Anti-illegal immigration, build wall
    • Bring back manufacturing jobs
    • Tariffs on China and Mexico, kill / redo NAFTA
    • Kill Iran nuke deal
    • Cut taxes
    • Leave social security alone
    • Avoid military interventions in foreign lands
    I would argue that Trump gave a f**k (or let's call it shameless opportunism) about a lot of American's wishes. Some of which had been ignored by both parties. Wow, what a concept. Candidate says he is going to do something, and then tries to do it, instead of flip-flopping. There is a reason he won in 2016. Well, going against Hillary who many women didn't like helped too. I would also argue that he actually accomplished much of what he set out to do.

    The problem with a democracy is that the guy you happen to like isn't always going to win.

    I understand this full well as I am 2 for 7 in presidential elections going back to Reagan. I've gotten used to it.
     
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    Depends upon circumstance.

    A friend of mine in SoCal. Former student from China. He's so shamelessly aggressive in achieving the American dream. Wakes up early at 5am for local bank, completes work early. For rest of the day, operates Tesla rental business. He has a fleet of Teslas. He drives a tricked out Model Y with an amazing patterned carbon wrap. He's got Trump written all over him. Works his ass off, hences hates taxes and regulation. He does not want to go back to China and lose freedom - access to capital.

    My parents hate China and are pro Taiwan independence. Democracy in Taiwan was their most important life's work. Any politician who tries to f**k with China gets their vote. Seriously. They are single-issue voters. They also hate Newsom and by extension Biden. Think Newsom is worthless and that the Democrats in California do "chaos-procurement" (literal Taiwanese translation), that is waste taxpayer dollars. Funny thing is that they tended Democrat before. They voted for Gray Davis. But also voted to get rid of him.

    I forgot: Asian small-bankers. Part of the niche west coast community banking industry that I used to work in, now decimated by Dodd-Frank. In 2014, Dodd, upon realizing my situation, told me that they were trying to fix things, but the damage had been done - it was too late. Asian bankers see the D party as bad for business. By extension, their customers: Asian landlords and small business people - they hate Newsom for obvious reasons and by extension Biden.
     
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    I didn't have a problem when he won. I didn't like it but I didn't have a problem. Because that was the will of the nation according to our laws (electoral NOT popular vote).

    What I DO have a problem with is the cult of personality that has convinced 75% (according to various outlets - no idea how accurate this number is) of reps that the election was stolen. Even though there is exactly zero evidence. What I have a problem with is reps in congress staging this bullshit to attempt (obviously utter waste of time) to change electoral votes. How about suing Pence?

    The point of all this is, cult of personality can very quickly and very easily turn into "Dear Leader". Just look at history. I don't know about you guys but I got the f**k out of communism to get away from exactly this thing.
     
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    History is exactly what I'm looking at. You think Trump was the first to act like this? Politics is always ugly, some times uglier, some times less so. Nixon arguably pulled off shittier stuff. Oh, and let's not even talk about how Kennedy may have stolen the election with the help of the Chicago mob. And then after being POTUS, fricking appointed this brother to be the top-cop of the USA. Stuff gets ugly, people move on.

    You may want to read up on Tippecanoe and Tyler Too. (I think this is important in understanding American mindset during election times).

    If Trump making calls to the election guy in Georgia scares you, then why aren't you getting the hell outta dodge? Personally, I think deep down inside you trust the institutions of the USA - but that you've read too much CNN or The Guardian and are being a little dramatic about it.

    What do you not understand? Trump is toast. He is gone.
     
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    I can't imagine the headlines if Clinton or Obama called a Secretary of State to "find some votes."

    And history of politics is ugly. Trump makes Nixon look like a saint. Last time this crap happened, it was 4 years and a nation divided until it was settled. It seems we will never learn our lessons.
     
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    They probably did and they all do. Just not in the same very obvious old school New York City brutish way that Trump does it. It's a game with a big prize, the biggest one on the planet if your aim is power.

    Of course not. It's human to repeat mistakes. It's 2021 now. Looking back, I scratch my head at how Afghanistan has become Vietnam Part Deux. I thought Vietnam was a "never-again" thing?
     
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    From a psychological POV, particularly if you were / are a progressive angry at Trump:

    Trump is gone.
    You were angry before.
    Now there is nothing to be angry with - oh the discomfort of the emptiness!
    Do not revert to being angry - these are merely trained habits.
    Grasping on irrelevant things which no longer matter.
    Rest in the emptiness and await the new possibilities.
    As Trump is gone.
    Please think of the above as a supplement to this uplifting and inclusive poem: https://joebiden.com/presidency-for-all-americans/

    P.S.

    If the above poems, including one from the Biden site don't work, I highly recommend a vision quest with hallucinogens. Not my problem if you suffer perma-brain damage though.
     
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    Trump knows how to stir a good shit pot. He's just unafraid. He doesn't the same scrutiny because he has been doing it his whole career and doesn't get held to the same standards as most politicians.

    And yes...we'll never learn to stop meddling in other's affairs for our own gains. Freedom isn't free...it's a $1.05.
     
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    And Trump isn't gone and he has friends threating to keep him there. This shit should be over. Orange man should have just conceded by now, but his tiny ass brain can't comprehend that 80 million actually voted him OUT. He refuses to believe it and in his puny brain still thinks he won. Gimme a break. It is time for all of us to move on and move past. I'm tired of it, aren't you?
     
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    Think of this like closing on a house. Need to get over multiple contingencies. Some escrows are more difficult than others. In the end, if the cash is there (and it is), it will happen.

    Trump will never concede. The only reason he will leave willingly on the last day is because he won't want to be dragged out of the White House by the secret service - too embarrassing for him. He'll be there until the very last day, quietly pack his bags and go. I'm calling it.
     
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    As far as Trump running on a platform and actually following through, and one that was truly "populist" or just not usual Dem/GOP bullshit, yep. Trump was the most effective president in any sense I care about since Bill Clinton's first term. Obviously his personal shortcomings are significant and did him in.

    Actually history tells us a lot of other things have to be in place. Western culture is different than Asian, or even Eastern (Eastern Orthodox) Europe like Russia. Study the Spanish civil war, Weimar Germany, the French revolution. America's constitutional system is non-fragile and designed specifically to be all but immune to "cult of personality". America is also too diverse (though that is changing) to be centrally managed very easily if at all.

    You also keep bringing "religion" up. The left (and Dems in congress who play along) is far more dangerous to religious folks of all types than Trump, GOP, and the libertarian right. Sure there is Trumpist Christians/Jews/Muslims etc. that are nuts (that "Jericho March" comes to mind) but most are not of that sort just as most on the left don't march in the Pride parades. Turn off your TV...
     
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    Well, I certainly hope you guys are right and I’m wrong. I genuinely mean that.

    I’ve seen coups and civil war with my own eyes. You really have no idea how easily that shit happens.

    When a full third of the country believes the election has been stolen and they have many of their own elected and appointed at the highest levels of govt, things can get very fucked very quickly.
     

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