Merv's Politically Incorrect Audio Blog

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  1. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Your pattern recognition sucks. Please add to your pattern reconstruction computer the following undisputed facts:
    1. The GOP governors of battleground states such as AZ and GA states have already vouched for their states' election results.
    2. Two legal challenges got tossed by the conservative majority SCOTUS.
    3. The top cop, or who was previously the top cop of the USA, William Barr, has gone on record that there was no widespread fraud in the election. I think he got fired for this, not that is really matters now.
    4. GOP Judge Matthew Brann in PA threw out Trump's lawsuit with a fairly scathing response.
    5. Trump appointee GOP Judge Jeremy Kernodle threw out lawsuit to pressure Pence to overturn election results.
    6. GA GOP Brad Raffensperger Secretary of State has essentially politely told Trump to go f**k himself in regards to changing election results.
    7. AR GOP Governor Asa Hutchinson: Joe Biden is our president-elect and he will be confirmed in that capacity.
    8. GOP Senators Toomey, Murkowski, Sasse and Romney have condemned any congressional challenge.
    9. GOP House Members (from several states): Jan 3 joint statement on states' rights to appoint electors and limited role of Congress in this regards.
    You've repeatedly used this a rhetorical device and by doing so, I personally take this as an insult. Please do not insult the American people and its institutions. We're not some banana republic with a fragile representative democracy. While the USA is still a young country, its Constitution and institutions has lasted a lot longer than any other in modern times. If you really have to hope, you should get out of the country now. Even if your kids are grown up, you should still worry about them if think you are sliding into dictatorship. I mean, since you don't like Trump, your grown kids could be arrested and tortured once he becomes dictator. I'm sure you don't want this to happen. As I said, talk is cheap. Seriously, I am beginning to think you may be some sort of Russian or Chinese agent, intending to sow discord and spread lies and paranoia*

    I would be wary if I didn't see the right (pun intended) people doing the right thing. However, they are doing the right thing. The judiciary is doing the right thing (they don't have to go up for election). GOP in Senate is split, but many are already doing the right thing with only the rest Ted Cruz and ten others (four new Senators) planning same ol' bluster to show off to their voters.

    *This is exactly I what I would do as enemy asset, to put into question the strength of the USA's institutions. It would be too easy to leverage Trump's personality deficiencies into making the American public feel that their freedoms were at stake, that peaceful transition was truly at risk, to make the political divide seem greater than it really is.
     
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    That is very true. I read New York Times every day, including some comments sections. 90% are from people passionately hating anyone who does not share their tunnel vision of the world where Trump brings disaster to the world every time he flushed the toilet, talking about re-education for Trump supporters, rejecting every piece of news, even if they read it in in NYT, if it is in any way favorable for Trump. And in the same sentence as they say that Trump is lying all the time, they quote Adam Schiff and Rachel Maddow, as another proof that Trump is lying.
    So yes, if the only newspaper I was reading was NYT, and if I was able to vote in the US, I would probably vote for Trump.
     
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  3. purr1n

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    Actually, I feel that statement can be rather insulting.

    Business owners who bust their ass will tend to vote for what is best for their business. The news and culture wars may amuse them; but ultimately, it's about their livelihoods. Going into business entails greater risks than being a employee of someone else. Legislation and taxes can suddenly and severely alter the course of a business. For example, CA Prop 15, 21, and AB5.
     
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    All this is true Marv, and now we have 100+ House Reps and 11+ Senators (including the two in my dumbass state) that are going to challenge the results. Even they can't accept these truths. Thus is why some of us are worried. It just makes us look bad.

    The challenges won's stand is that there is enough support in the House and Senate to override this BS, but that is all it is. Grandstanding BS. Hopefully it will all be over in a few days and we can all put this to rest.
     
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    Four things:
    1. What's the criteria for Congress to invalidate any of the states' results? Would this actually be possible?
    2. Grandstanding: bluster is an artform*, by definition also includes "to no effect". Almost half of the Senators doing this are brand new first term. They are doing this appease their base.
    3. The thing about any democracy is that we are going to have people on the fringes. This is the natural order of things. If you want a system of government which does not allow people on the fringes, then look toward China. No one in Standing Committee is fringe there: left, right, up, or down. They are all center. Center on Xi.
    4. The only thing that looks bad is Trump. If anything, progressives should be happy to see this shit happening because it reminds the rest of the country, the independents, and even many conservatives, that voting for someone who acts like a opportunistic jackass may not be in the best interests of the country. It's a painful experience, but this is where the best lessons come from.
    * Julius Caesar used this to much effect, but he also marched a few legions into Rome. And no, these legions were not a bunch of overweight dudes from MI in camo who played special forces in their backyard.
     
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    This. Before Covid changed the dynamic I wanted the show trial (impeachment) of Trump to last right up until election day as it revealed just how far the progressive left in government/media was willing to go in pursuit of their hatred of those who don't think/live like them.

    Republicans like Cruz/Hawley et al. are grandstanding for the base, even if there is precedent (Dem's did in in the past), but IMO probably doing more to lose the next election than anything else. Heck, those two Repub. candidates in Georgia might even be losing the Senate for the GOP and keeping that is so important because of SCOTUS and minority rights and otherwise reinforcing what in fact was an overall conservative victory in this election.
     
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    Surprising and not so surprising for GA - as they've been slowly moving in that direction for over a decade now. I'm convinced that the people GA will blow up Stone Mountain or at least post a warning message there within another decade. Changing demographics in many other states could push them more blue. For example, Austin is a blue bastion and expanding, as well as the other big cities in TX. I can see the Democratic party informally split into two factions: the moderates and the progressives. Or maybe the GOP will try to recapture the moderates. I just hope that there is room for people in the middle (or outside of both). The future - I cannot see clearly.

    More than anything else, I have to say that love the motion. Power by its nature corrupts people. Only competition of ideas and change prevents stagnation. One party rule for any extended period of time tends to be very very bad.
     
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    IMO, Covid demonstrated what an incompetent leader Trump and his nepotist family really truly are. Facts could not be ignored, it wasn't going to go away, and he couldn't turn it into a win. In those instances leaders have to have inspire, which Trump is incapable of because he has no empathy.
     
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    Newsom, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and destined to be king one day, didn't exactly inspire either.

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    Trump came off as an unsympathetic asshole. Newsom came off as "f**k you, I'm better than you."

    BTW, Trump nepotism is nothing compared to the Newsom Getty, Brown, Pelosi club. Part of this is because Trump really doesn't have any money. I admire folks who can pull this off - I really do. Seeing Trump try to do the nepotism thing was super cringy because he was so bad and obvious about it - and also because anyone with a brain knows that he doesn't have any of his own money - a prerequisite for nepotism that lasts.

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    Just offering a more balanced and less selective perspective with respect to bad leadership. Too bad Newsom got caught. 99% of the time, they don't, and we never know about it. It's noteworthy how CNN, MSNBC, ABC largely avoided reporting the above facts.

    It's like what I'm been saying. They are all porkers. Not on a spectrum of more or less, but more like different.

    P.S. And this too. Of course she was set-up. I sure wish I could have been set-up so I could have gotten a haircut during that time.
     
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    This theater after the election is another example of Trump's predisposition of loosing mostly to himself.
    I liked Kimberly Strassel analysis who said that when all the changes in the voting system were introduced at the state level, legality of ballot harvesting, all mail voting etc.. Trump campaign kept bitching about it instead of preparing and potentially taking advantage of it. As opposite to for example the Republican candidates in California who took back four seats from Democrats, after being surprised in 2018 they apparently learnt from it. Trump did not.
     
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    I never stated anyone else as being perfect leader, you started that.

    But At least they are better leaders and not a psychopathic narcissist.

    Just trying to offer something balanced.
     
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    Fair and Balanced @rtaylor76? What is balanced nowadays?
     
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    You really do not know?
    that what is balanced nowadays.
     
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    You didn't get my joke it seems. No worries about it dude. Or maybe you do....
     
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    You are referring to Newsom right?

    No you are not. You are just repeating what CNN says on a daily basis and restating the obvious.

    No, you started it. I never pointed out any perfect leaders as I do not believe in such a thing. I simply pointed that out that shit nepositic narcissistic leaders exist on both sides of the isle. Something most major news media outlets don't like to point out. If you want to point out leaders who fucked up on handling COVID because of narcissism, then Newsom belongs up there too. No, he's not POTUS, but he is governor of the largest state in the union with by far the highest GDP and virus cases.

    Only someone so morally bankrupt and self-centered would tell others to do one thing for the safety of Californians, yet violate those rules himself. This not only goes against the the more realistic approach that "every man is created equal (before the eyes of God)", but also the more progressive view that "every man is created equal (in the eyes of man)"

    In this respect, I think he's worse than Trump. At least Trump insisted upon equal application of stupidity for all.
     
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    Only the one in power is news.

    Depending in how much much shit there is to clear up when Trump leaves, the journalists will soon be talking about someone else. The comedians will be making jokes about someone else. We'll be talking about someone else.

    But there's still two weeks to go. What's up the Trumpian sleeves?
     
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    Governors are the ones who have real power. If the virus has proven one thing, it's that the is USA is still rather de-centralized with the states wielding much of their own power.

    Also, national news made NY Gov Cuomo somewhat of a folk hero in the early days when hundreds of New Yorkers were dying by the day. They are showing him now more as is really is with his snarks against reporters asking difficult questions. (Cuomo should know better than the pick fights with news media, but I guess he ultimately couldn't help it.) I simply find the coverage rather uneven. Surely Newsom's narcissism can make an occasional headline between the five others of Trump's narcissism?

    Newsom will one day run for POTUS and may even become POTUS. He's being protected by the news media. (If Kamala fails a few years down the road, Newsom will be up. Otherwise Newsom will have to settle for veep first.) Mark my words. I'm calling it. The West Coast Democrats have been waiting for this. It's their turn next. There are no guarantees, but this is how the game is played.
     
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    Club Fed or a Supermax cell isn’t consequential enough. If you want to dine like an emperor when Rome burns, you should be able to die like an emperor. Less than a third of Roman emperors died natural deaths. The families, backers, and friends weren’t allowed to live and take revenge. That was a big mistake by Caesar.

    Historically, the only way smug thieving kleptocrat learn is in their last moments before being horrifically publicly executed.
     
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    One of the big ironies of human affairs (and it is much older than Trump or even the United States) is that anyone who wants power enough to hold public office probably should never be trusted with the power that comes with the office. The real headscratcher is that we collectively keep expanding the power that we allow these narcissistic egomaniac assholes to wield. Isn't anybody paying f'ing attention?
     
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    And I chose SBAF of all places to do it? Funny. I'll go back to listening to my music while I figure out how to infiltrate another minor niche hobby forum in order to bring down the most powerful country on Earth lol.

    I thought this was the politically incorrect thread. Should I only say things everyone agrees with and accepts? Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, will remove myself now.
     
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