Merv's Politically Incorrect Audio Blog

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  1. rhythmdevils

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    “Trump, according to the Times, has asked White House advisers about using Republican-controlled legislatures in states like Pennsylvania to hijack the Electoral College, by appointing electors who would ignore official vote counts and return him to power.”

    -the New Yorker

    scary shit
     
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    no, not that people are dumb but that we by nature are more emotional than rational. That’s why advertising works. If we were all rational beings advertising would have no effect but it’s incredibly effective. Politics works the same way. The GOP employ highly sophisticated advertising and branding techniques and the Democratic Party does not. That’s just a fact that isn’t disputable if you understand anything about branding or advertising. What you summiize from that is debatable I suppose. But it’s fairly obvious that there are far more emotionally driven GOP voters than Democratic voters. You have to really try to vote Democrat. You have to think about the issues and vote based on them. To vote GOP you simply need to identify with the GOP brand. Which is very very easy in fact quite difficult for the people they are targeting not to do. And again, not because they’re stupid. It’s just human nature.
     
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    Did your father in law told you to build him a house?

    My Mexican background friends keep getting this insult A LOT back in high school.
     
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    It’s impossible to get reliable stats when people who die WITH COVID have often been counted as dying FROM COVID. That inflates the numbers as well.

    A couple of weeks ago I read an article that claimed since COVID, fewer people were getting influenza. I believe they claimed that Flu was down something like 15-20%. But they never once considered that Flu cases were now being counted as COVID cases.
     
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    It’s likely this will be a record low year for flu cases due to all the mask wearing, hand washing and social distancing that non-covidiots are practicing all over the world.
     
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    Incorrect. In America (I don't know about Canada) excess mortality due directly and solely to Covid is about 30%. That is take all the deaths if this was a normal year, and add about 30% on top. It's a nuclear bomb over Cincinnati, Lexington, or Bakersfield.

    All the (mostly right wing) amateur epidemiologists on the internet and in right wing media who conflate comorbidities, flu, or fill_in_the_blank are the equivalent of ASR...they think they are doing "science" when all they are doing is revealing their ignorant underbellies.
     
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    From Vietnam, Taiwan, Korea (both ends), Thailand, New Zealand, and the source of the pandemic, China? Malaysia is doing less well, but that’s likely to be caused by leakage through our porous eastern borders (sorry Lyander).

    The lesson from everywhere around the world is that the more you f**k around before locking down properly, the more this will hurt.
     
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    Let's get real. I am sure North Korea is peachy, it has always been. And the numbers we are getting from them are unquestionable. Same with China
     
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    I've not been out of my house for 8 months now and am rather cranky as a result. Seeing the sheer volume of people who've been taking this lightly and acting like social distancing and mask-wearing are all optional niceties makes me want to shove chopsticks into ears and eye sockets.

    Been working on being less crochety. Limited success.

    Other places that have adhered to stringent lockdown advisories grew well to do. NZ and Italy showed promise, but now that people are growing lax cases and deaths are on the rise all over again. On my end there's been storms, flooding, and an earthquake just today in the south of the country (Indonesia seems to have felt that last bit too, hope y'all are okay)— piss and perdition, now there's leptospirosis, dengue, and all sorts of other fun things to worry about besides.

    What kind of f'ing stupid do you have to be to not be able to put together that keeping people from mingling will help mitigate the spread of a virus is a question I didn't think I'd have to pose.

    I made the mistake of watching news recently and saw a mother's reaction when she found her dead 2 year old buried under mud and rubble. The fact that the news crew filmed and broadcasted that makes me sick, but hey at least they had the decency to blur the tiny corpse. Her expression and the noises she made are still stuck in my head, that isn't helping the insomnia and I'm having some trouble being polite.
     
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    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
    Just take a look at this site and the graph about the excess deaths threshold. They have ESTIMATED numbers until the week of October 1st.
    Only for four weeks this year in April the excess deaths estimate went above 30%. From the end of August is below 10% and sometimes the margin of error is like 100%. So 30% is not for the year it was the peek during four week at the beginning of the pandemic, fueled probably in large numbers by NY.
    How is that possible that those four weeks in April above 30% made the number for the year to be 30%?
    Even assuming that in the last 6 weeks the excess deaths picked up significantly, but there is no data to support that.
     
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    I’m moving to Oregon! Seriously.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oregon-decriminalize-drug-law_n_5fac42e9c5b6cae940423816

    It’s so cool to see this as it’s something I’ve believed in for many years. Incarcerating people for small amounts of drug possession accomplishes nothing and in fact only solidifies addiction and makes recovery more difficult not to mention costing huge amounts of money to keep these people in prison - money that could be spent on rehabilitation programs that could really help people’s lives and society as a whole. Hurray for Oregon.
     
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    The lesson is reasonable precautions, extensive contact tracing, supporting those who have to go into quarantine, and fining the f**k outta idiots. There is zero need for lockdown - well Taiwan did suspend flights from China on Feb 7. Being super paranoid about anything from China and believing 0% of what the China Communists and WHO says also helps.

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    The WHO was a colossal failure, and as a result, many people died. Flight links should have been cut from China to anywhere else in the world to buy the world time. It took until mid February for the WHO to admit it was a pandemic. By the time US closed off China on May 19, it was already way too late. The EU had already been infected and brought a more nasty strain to NY.
     
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    How don't you know it's the other way? Maybe the news organizations tried to paint conservatives as mostly emotionally unstable folks with guns who wanted to overthrow the government, kidnap governors, shoot protestors, start trouble, wear diapers while wielding machine guns, etc.?

    Or maybe reasonable people who used Spock analysis didn't see the Green New Deal as being beneficial to their pocketbook or police defunding as being conducive to public safety? Just because people have different priorities and care about different issues doesn't mean they are more emotional. All the suburban housewives I knew who voted for Trump in 2016 barfed at the notion of re-electing him this time around, but still voted GOP down ballot. That sounds reasonable and not necessarily emotional to me.

    The only emotional "conservative" types I saw where I live were families with American flags on an overpass on 101 in Newbury Park / Westgate Village. Oh, and a three Jeep Wrangler caravan with American flags and Trump signs honking along Thousand Oaks Blvd.

    I saw a lot more emotion when parts of Santa Monica and Beverly Hills were ransanked.

    I wouldn't say that the GOP had a better message, especially in respect to working class whites where they've flipped the votes from traditional patterns. It's more that 1) Trump took part of Bannon's platform (let's look inward and take care of ourselves instead of being globalists); and 2) Democrats abandoned one of their core values and thus part of their constituency (going back to Clinton, killing unions, throwing manufacturing over the fence, kowtowing to China, etc.).

    I however voted Trump as a protest (to make the the contest 0.000001% closer) because I knew my vote would not count in California. And also because when it comes to Biden and his friends (Obama, Dodd, etc.), it's personal - my daughter cried for weeks - when we had to move and I had to take a humbling demotion in a new industry as a result of the killing of the community banking niche. Yes, it's a good part emotional for me. What I suffered at the hands of well intended but poorly thought out legislation - that's the kind of stuff that causes PTSD - and makes one swear off a political party for the rest of their lives. But then again, I am voting on conviction and principle (against Gov playing "The Sims"), or on emotion?

    For the record, I would have easily taken Amy Cyclops or Pete Butthead, or that guy from Colorado, Hickleburger over Biden or Trump. I liked the Colorado dude, but he had no chance - too boring, too moderate. Or maybe Yang (the anti-Trump) since the gov't is throwing out money anyway.
     
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    NK probably just shot their infected and burned their corpses.

    China probably has ~4x the number of deaths they reported, but it is also true that their lockdown made it possible to reopen sooner than most places. Even from a purely economic perspective, locking down hard and fast seems to be the right move.

    Contact tracing works fine and all when you have 10 cases a day, but at this point you need to scram your reactors. It’s that or pray that the antibodies for Trump work for everyone else.
     
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    Made me LOL and spit out coffee at my screen in a MS Teams meeting.

    Read the Chinese (outside of China Communist apparatus) papers. Examination on cell phones going perma-silent, crematorium activity, etc. Serious Orwellian shit.
     
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    I stand corrected. Doing a bit of math:

    2.8 million expected deaths assuming a 'normal' April/19 > April/20

    325,000 excess deaths during this time (250,000 + projected), assuming current overall trend (i.e. this current spike will level back off - this is not a 'second wave')

    11.6% excess death rate during time period.
     
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    Yep, China is pretty much 1984 realised (I’ve read the stuff about crematorium activity). Still would be odd if they reopened without really clearing up their coronavirus cases though. As evil as they might be, they are coldly rational in most things.
     
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    The silly thing to me about "Police Defunding" is Policing is not a Federal Issue. I triggered a few GOP voters when I pointed out that Policing in general is a 10th Amendment issue, which means this should be a State's Matter on how they handle their Policing. The Federal level have a more limited role here than people realize.

    Federal Level can only control Federal crimes, but the amount of people who are convicted on Federal crimes is not close to the amount of people who are convinced under State crimes. This also means policing should be focused on the State Senator/Rep Races, your Town/City Council Races, and Sheriff races. Also, just because you are voting down ticket GOP doesn't mean they will do shit on this issue.

    People got triggered when FL Gov Desantis* submitted a draft for a bill to make any "Violent Protest" have harsh sentencing/expand stand your ground. People got pissed about it, but the States have the right to regulate these matters (where is where it belongs).

    * A few things next to Desantis name:
    • FL Governors do not have the right to introduce a bill per FL Constitution. They can make any draft of a bill they want, but FL Legislature don't have to take the draft at all. FL Legislature can make their own version of the same bill, and their own version trumps the Gov's draft.
    • FL Legislature have the running joke: A grand bill that does so much but when it gets to the Governor's desk after surviving the Legislature it is a weak bill that doesn't do shit.
    • FL already have tough laws on violent protests anyway (which is why we didn't have no Portland BS here), the purposed bill is give the Police Union's wonderful protections + unlimited support to the GOP.
      • Which by the way, bust the Police Unions like any other Unions who are too big for their own good. Just like those employee Unions who open their wallet for Democrats, the Police Unions are doing the same for the GOP.
    • My fat gut is telling me this upcoming bill is once again all talk and full of BS as being a proud member of FL.
     
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    Hard to say of these deaths are "excess" as COVID seems to get the very seriously ill. That is many of these COVID victims could have died from cancer or heart attacks anyway. And there are going to be people who would have otherwise been run over by a bus, struck by lightning, shot by guns, etc. The thing I really wonder about are the deadly heart attacks and suicides induced by lack of employment, loss of businesses, isolation, etc. No one seems to want to put a number on the deleterious health issues including deaths when people lose their livelihood.

    I'm curious to the increase in death rate for 2020 and 2021 after all is done for as compared to the death rates in the years before.
     
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    Calabasas City Hall: No big parties with hoes, if you are aware of any please report to the LA County Sheriff's department.

    LA County Sheriff: Because of budget cuts, we can't take your call unless it's a life threatening emergency. Please leave a message.
     
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