Network Players - Streamers Impressions and Reviews

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by David De Lucena, Nov 14, 2018.

  1. Lasollor

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    Yes, Roon can identify the DigiOne Signature. I’ve tried DietPi, PiCorePlayer and RoonBridge so far, all works with Roon.
     
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    I haven't installed anything yet but I plan to go with Ropieee as a barebones Roon endpoint. Picked upup Apple TV gen 3 for other streaming stuff since it has optical out and I care less about optimal SQ from Spotify, Apple music etc. My better half likes it since she also has Apple. Roon found it as an endpoint, surprisingly.
     
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    Ropieee is dead simple to setup, I have 3 connected to Roon as well as 3 Airplay endpoints and they all work well. I'd even say the raspberry pis are more stable and have less drop outs.
     
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    I have an Ambre feeding one chain, a DigiOne Sig feeding the other. I can't give you an A / B of their respective coax outputs, as I've only used Ambre feeding a Pavane via I2S.

    For the Sig, I started off feeding the Pi with a wallwart, and the HAT with an LPS 1.2. The Sig sounded pretty damn good - not quite up to Ambre (again, feeding a Pavane via I2S), but very good.

    In a fit of stupid extravagance (as I'm prone to), I wondered what if any sonic benefit I'd hear by feeding both the Pi and the input to the LPS 1.2 with clean, dynamic power. I'd recently picked up a Mojo Audio Illuminate v3 with dual, selectable rails, so I configured one side for the Pi, the other for the LPS 1.2 input.

    This massive overkill PS configuration (~$1,800 for the Illuminate, ~$435 for the LPS 1.2) elevates the Sig using BNC above Ambre. Black, clean, dynamic with excellent separation. Very tight bass. Is it worth it? Hell if I know. Like I said, I'm prone to extreme, expensive configurations to see what's achievable through better power. It's better than Ambre / I2S, but probably only 5%-10% better, for twice the cost all in.

    I'll leave Sig in my main system as it's performing well as powered, but the Ambre's much simpler, cheaper, and nearly as competent.

    Roon wise, I haven't noticed any difference functionality wise, but I'm fairly new to Roon.
     
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    Thanks for that @MisterRogers . I think what's really interesting and important to keep in mind for anyone looking for a TL;DR is just how damn good the DigiOne Sig really is, for a relatively modest cost of digital transports in an otherwise overpriced world (looking at you, Auralic, you fuckers). It's also nice to know that Metrum dacs don't necessary require I2S to sound very, very good, though for someone looking at a plug n' play easy combo solution, it does make sense to order an Ambre as well if Roon is your playback software.

    I got DigiOne Sig and ordered an LPS from Aliexpress a bit before then (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/ZER...03.html?spm=a2g0s.12269583.0.0.6f2b417aBR2H46). Somehow this arrived a couple days before the DigiOne Sig board, which I didn't expect as I ordered two Allo SMPS with my board, case and Pi3 to get myself up and running. In any event, I haven't even used the stock Allo supplies so anyone looking for what this LPS can improve upon will be, for now, disappointed. The price difference here is about x4 for the LPS vs. Allo SMPS. However I would argue that to get an R-core LPS with dual outputs, you're in JS-2 territory (x8-9 the Aliexpress LPS), so in that regard it's good value. @atomicbob has done measurements on ZeroZone gear before, so I have no doubt this is a quality unit as well (https://www.superbestaudiofriends.o...echnical-measurements.6119/page-2#post-204671). Be very cognizant of who you're ordering ZeroZone stuff from on Aliexpress as there are many sellers.

    I've been meaning to open up the Aliexpress LPS to verify its contents but I'm not too concerned about it. It works and damn well. I'm using BNC -> Gungnir A1 via Wireworld Starlight 8. IMO it reminds me a lot of using AES from my Lynx setup (awhile ago however, so salt etc.) in that the background is quite black, and details come across relaxed yet not rolled or lacking. The entire setup has been running for a few days straight now and neither the LPS nor DigiOne Sig get hot, only slightly lukewarm.

    When I sold my DSJr. I resorted back to my Squeezebox Touch -> Gungnir and I'm beginning to wonder if that was the source of my 'incisive edges' comments and initial dislike. I still have SBT around, plus the Allo stock supplies so I may do some comparisons later as time permits. Needless to say, I'm still waiting on my replacement Metrum dac to arrive but my current setup is scratching the itch.

    Oh and RoPieee wasn't too bad to setup. It took a bit of effort to get the web interface working properly (which involved getting an IP device scanner app on my phone b/c the URL provided by RoPieee didn't work for me) but after that it's been rock solid.
     
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    I got my Digione signature player this week.Its breeze to set it up. Running DietPi and connected Qutest and Gungnir Multibit via BNC-BNC and RCA- BNC respectively. It works flawlessly as Roon end point and airplay streamer. No dropouts. I have removed Ethernet and have enabled WiFi as I don’t have access to Router in my Room. However I have got a WiFi extender with Ethernet port which I will use and will switch off the WiFi adapter. it’s running 24/7 for past 3 days and haven’t recharged the LIFEPO4 batteries so far.
     

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